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Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20240604 00:08:00

pardoning donald trump. trump is talking about pardoning the insurrectionists, the proud boys and the oath keepers, for their violent assault on our police officers. they are racing to see which can be the first candidate to say he will be the one, or she will be the one to pardon donald trump for his crimes. even before he is convicted, even before the evidence has been shown in court, in a jury of his peers has been able to pronounce upon what crimes he may have committed. so, the problem is that they will all talk about it, they want to get to the future, they want to get beyond this. the problem is that donald trump is their future. donald trump is their past and they re present. he operates like a cult leader. they operate like cult followers, except for chris christie and mike pence, depending on what day it is. it all goes through trump. now, trump just posted on truth social that he plans to surrender, turn himself in on thursday. that s a little news that just broke this eve

Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20240604 07:07:00

and they act as if nothing is happening. i will be curious to see if any of them even raises the question of climate change, and what could be done about it. they are talking about pardoning donald trump. trump is talking about pardoning the insurrectionists, the proud boys and the oath keepers, for their violent assault on our police officers. they are racing to see which can be the first candidate to say he will be the one, or she will be the one to pardon donald trump for his crimes. even before he is convicted, even before the evidence has been shown in court, in a jury of his peers has been able to pronounce upon what crimes he may have committed. so, the problem is that they will all talk about it, they want to get to the future, they want to get beyond this. the problem is that donald trump is their future. donald trump is their past and they re present. he operates like a cult leader. they operate like cult followers, except for chris christie and mike pence, depending on what

Transcripts for MSNBC Yasmin Vossoughian Reports 20240604 19:38:00

11,000 or so votes, in order to remain president. and that be found guilty for that. you know, not going to see anybody, you know, not notice the fact that not only did he ask pence to overthrow the election, but literally called a mob in to intimidate him and other members of congress. the level of criminality that the former president has engaged in is undoubtedly true and i believe that the justice system is going to hold him accountable, regardless of what his cult followers do and believe. so, there is this washington post op-ed which kind of somewhat draws on what you were saying. but talking specifically about how, in fact, an impeachment could feasibly backfire on republicans. i m talking specifically, of course, an impeachment of former president bill clinton

Transcripts for MSNBC Yasmin Vossoughian Reports 20240604 19:37:00

that trump is a cult leader and any cult follower is willing to die and commit crimes on behalf of their cult leader. these cult followers of his in congress are going to do everything that they can, including obstruction of justice. we have seen them previously threaten witnesses who would come in front of congress to speak about his criminality. we have seen people go to jail for obstructing justice, because of their loyalty to their cult leader. and i will not be surprised, i don t think the american people are going to be surprised, when they see a sham impeachment of biden take place and distract from the fact that there are actual criminal charges that their cult leader is facing, and that he is going to be held accountable. you are not going to get away with calling, you know, georgia officials and saying, i need

Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20240604 00:43:00

drama, they thought. until people got to know him. they saw that he was not a great candidate, and you ve seen in the polling numbers how he has hemorrhaged support, his poll numbers are staggering we ve never seen more than a day of positive headlines for ron desantis, have we? they ve been nothing but negative headlines. the failure to launch is the epitome of the descriptions of his campaign because he is trying to run to the right of trump. he has to be trump like. primary voters don t want. that donald trump has spent the last seven years, maybe longer, but seven years of politics now creating this narrative that he is a victim. and so every single time that anybody attacks him and calls him a loser. says he can t win, he ll go right back to, they are attacking me because they don t want to support you. his cult followers believe this. this is a very powerful tool. i don t see it moving. why would it? what is their alternative?

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