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Transcripts for MSNBC The ReidOut 20240604 00:09:00

down or overthrow the government of the united states, is a charge certainly that was talked about, and it s one that undoubtedly the department of justice will assemble a lot more evidence than we were able to get because so many people refused to testify to us, either they just blew off our subpoenas or they came in and took the fifth amendment. what we would need to show there is that there was intent by donald trump himself or eastman himself to engage in violence. and we took a very cautious approach. the committee feels unanimously there s abundant evidence of all these other charges but given the constraints put on us by people refusing to testify, we were not able to agree that this was a charge that was fully made, and we decided to stick with what we thought seemed to us certain. thank you for explaining that. i think that the john eastman, you talked about john eastman, he s the person who in all of these hearings seemed to have had the longest standing plan,

Transcripts for MSNBC The ReidOut 20240604 00:03:00

and which made the case that trump aided and abetted those who mobbed the capitol in a desperate bid to cling to power. it was a somewhat expected conclusion, but also an historic one, and it may finally offer what chairman and congressman bennie thompson called the most important factor in preventing another january 6th. accountability. as part of that effort, the committee today summarized again in vivid detail the key evidence the investigation uncovered from trump pressures state officials to inciting a mob united by one allegiance, to keep donald trump in power. you re asking me to do something that s never been done in history, the history of the united states. mr. giuliani accused you and your mother of passing some sort of usb drive to each other. what was your mom actually handing you on that video? a ginger mint.

Transcripts for MSNBC The ReidOut 20240604 00:49:00

it just landed perfectly. we talked with my mom and was like, “hey do you think that we should do something like that for dad?” and she was like “you know what i think that would be actually really cool.” i figured this is a great holiday present since i won t be with him for christmas. it was the best gift that i ever received, in my entire life. because it opened up my life. unwrap your family story, with ancestrydna. none of the subpoenaed members complied. we re now referring four members of congress for appropriate sanction by the house ethics committee for failure to comply with lawful subpoenas. those four republicans the committee referred to the house ethics committee are notably still sitting members of congress, and will exercise real power when republicans assume the majority starting in january. there is scott perry, one of the members who sought a pardon from

Transcripts for MSNBC The ReidOut 20240604 00:53:00

doesn t happen in the democratic party. some of us will, they will ask every single day, and every time the issue one. eugene, this isn t friday, we re not doing the week, but if i was, i d say, speaker pelosi, not only is the hearing room where this hearing took place today called the nancy pelosi, speaker nancy pelosi here room, first time a woman had that, but she formed this committee in good faith. it was kevin mccarthy, the potential future speaker, if you survives the vote, who said, no, no, i want to put obstructionists on. she said, you can t do that, sir. he took the folks off the committee who could have been, sort of, a reasonable counter, something that maybe would have been satisfying to republicans. he wants it with kinzinger and liz cheney. that was his fault. she winds up with a committee that had an incredible success at presenting republican witnesses against the former president. your thoughts? s against another one of kevn mccarthy s really smooth political mov

Transcripts for MSNBC The ReidOut 20240604 00:24:00

convicted some people on seditious conspiracy. they now have a referral on four other charges. if you re in the doj right now, which way do you go? well, joy, i think it s really important to determine whether they have evidence that links donald trump and his inner circle, you know, the willard hotel war room, with the planning for the physical attack. so far, we are seen some hints of it, some circumstantial evidence of it, we have roger stone and mike flynn photographed with some members of the groups on january 5th. to this day, we do not have that direct link saying donald trump planned in advance this physical attack. it may be that the justice department is able to do that. they have some investigative tools not available to the january 6th committee. like search warrants and the grand jury, they can immunize witnesses. they can offer cooperation credit. they may be able to develop that yet. i thought the committee actually did a very good job here in not overcharging. i think

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