peel. but, i tell you, with the crowds here gathered with their umbrellas, with their umbrellas up, st. peter s square has turned into a giant kaleidoscope as we all turn to look at these giant video screens up here in the square itself. yes. always just a moment when these elections are taking place, particularly when suspenseful like this. it looks more black than white to me. we are not hearing the bells, but, of course, we didn t hear the bells for a while in 2005. so, it s hard to know whether we could be having a moment here. but i suspect we don t have a pope yet. again, we should point out, also in 1978 when the smoke actually had been spewing for white at night, it did appear, perhaps, that it was black. so, the crowd s in st. peter s square started gathering their
around the world have for benedict? shepard: really, the roman people? i know a lot of italians. they don t talk about a lot of affection for benedict. they didn t talk about a lot of. affection for cardinal inninger. not that there s any dislike. about affection? i haven t heard that. look at the images we have seen over the past few days, of crowds, crowds in st. peter s square, and the flags waving, and at the end of the derrick benedict was a bishop of rome and this is michigan of very close to people, very close to italian around the world. i know we certainly feel affection for benedict. shepard: all right. well, as we move forward here, i don t know who the next pope is going to be. nobody nose yet. whoever it is has a lot of work to do. it s been widely reported, and it s true, that this pope faced up to some of the crises, but they re still sheltering men who