kevin should get a food taster at this point. elise stefanik is mccarthy. this is cut six for my producers. before she became a trump cult leader she called him soft on putin and recognized russia attacked the 2016 election and urged him to release tax returns and went after him. she is kevin mccarthy. so to stay with you and all can t stand donald trump, you could tell. he said democrats can take him out. the problem i see is spinelessness, crowdedness, they re clutching for the ring and, you know, they think they re going to get it. right. they re all after this. they all believe they can get trump s blessing. trump s, you know, trump s fickle love will fall and then the day of the vote but the reality of the caucus, the republican caucus, not the republicans we grew up with.
vice president, former vice president has to make a determination. does he want to do the right thing here like he did on january 6th or does he want to play politics? he had no choice. he had no choice on january 6th. listen, that s a political portion of it. let talk about the legal angle of it. laura, if pence refuses to cooperate voluntarily, what should the select committee do? what can they do? they should subpoena him and see if this game of chicken is going to end in crowdedness because that s what you have to act like and feel if you re talking about not willing to provide information. remember, it s odd and striking that vice president mike pence on the one hand maybe he was hoping that by having members of his team cooperate and give information he could provide and convey without having fingerprints on to salvage whatever political ambitions he may have. the gallows were built on the
nomination for president in 2024. this testimony could be very damaging to him among certain elements of the base but the vice president, former vice president has to make a determination. does he want to do the right thing here like he did on january 6th or does he want to play politics? he had no choice. he had no choice on january 6th. listen, that s a political portion of it. let talk about the legal angle of it. laura, if pence refuses to cooperate voluntarily, what should the select committee do? what can they do? they should subpoena him and see if this game in chicken is going to end in crowdedness because that s what you have to act like and feel if you re talking about not willing to provide information. remember, it s odd and striking that vice president mike pence on the one hand maybe he was hoping that by having members of his team cooperate and give information he could provide and convey without having
that one. we ll let you in, sister. we won t leave you out of that. we ll go to jason real quick. what this story said to me is they re still repeating they are looking at enrique and the proud boys and a conspiracy but only the violent actors and say people planned it, i don t believe anyone near trump is part of that. they think they can get by with just indicting the grunts but never get to the planners. that s how i see it. how do you? you re exactly right. we seen inertia and crowdedness from the doj. at this point, the doj, the bat signals burned a hole in the clouds and nobody responded. nobody has shown up to really do anything one way or another and the idea that we re going to get justice in this country, the idea we ll get to the bottom of the january 6th insure ex-by
word is crowdedness and debates these people are willing to go through in service of donald trump is frankly shocking but again, there is more here than just like the personal moral failings of the republicans. they have a plan here and that plan includes getting secretaries of state in place, in various critical states who are willing to throw away dually cast votes i mean, like so there is two things going on. there is the very public clownishness, right, where republicans kind of beclowned themselves to donald trump but then there is the very serious attempts to not just over throw democracy but to make it so that democracy cannot happen again in 2022 and 2024 and those tracks are going in parallel. both of those things are happening at the same time yes, the gullible people might think that, you know, next week they re going to have a rematch and that a fool and his money