lead lawyer of one of them. i helped my dad in the other four. still a part of preparing the case? yes, sir. still a part of gathering the evidence and putting it together for trial? in a criminal case, we didn t do much the gathering of the evidence. we took what law enforcement had gathered. putting it together for the criminal trial, correct? yes, sir. presenting evidence in court? yes, sir. giving jury arguments? i did the closing argument in one of them, yes, sir. did you ever have any cases that you prosecuted that went short of a jury trial, either pled out or were dismissed for some reason? you know, i m sure that at some point over between 1998 and 2021 that i took some plea, but as we sit here today i can t specifically remember that, and i don t ever remember working a case up for trial that didn t go to trial, but i m sure at some point in time i was involved in some level of a guilty plea or guilty pleas. you would agree with me that t
get to. it s 4:35. he s been on the stand the entire day. prosecution has had him for about an hour now and still haven t gotten to the night of the murders. is it likely we ll see this cross examination go well into tomorrow? yes, i think it is. as you said, i m looking at my clock right now. it s 4:35, and we re still talking about where he had his badge and when. that having been said, there s clearly a strategic choice being made by the prosecution to focus on the fact that this is a guy who dripped his privilege everywhere. don t lose sight of the fact that this was not just a rich guy. this is a person whose history, his family lore is almost steeped in this county. everybody knows who this guy is. there was a portrait of his grandfather or great grandfather that had to be taken off the courthouse wall. this is a guy who made a decision to take that badge with him wherever he went, they re