closing in on donald trump have gotten even tighter this week. federal prosecutors have obtained an audio recording feature for president trump discussing a classified planning document he kept about potential military action on ron, a source familiar with the matter told nbc news. and to make matters worse for the former president, in the recording, trump suggests that he would like to share the classified information, but was aware of the constraints on his capacity to declassify materials post presidency. thus, completely undercutting his jedi declassification powers defense. upon learning about trans physician of the classified documents, federal prosecutors swiftly issued a subpoena to trump s legal team, requesting all records of that resembled the document. trump s attorneys, however, had to inform the justice
the kind of, i don t want to say gravitas, but the presence, the verbal skills to throw punches at both trump and desantis. he is a former prosecutor, so he has no bones, i think, about going after trump for the indictments and telling him, and everyone else who s listening, these are real, they re not gonna go away, do you really want to nominate someone who is under indictment for serious charges. he s not, i think, in there to win it. he s in there to blow up the two front runners. and perhaps things, well, maybe if i do that, someone else will get to win and all either gets to be vice president for attorney general. what doug. he is unique tellers when it comes to pumping peoples balloons, and we saw that in 2016. if he s able to pump first donald trump balloon, that s a lot to get out. or if anybody else is. it doesn t automatically become rhonda sentences. he may be the front runner at
that point, but he s not the automatic nominee. if that race recess, there s a lot of people who will, all of a sudden, we see jousting for that first place or even a high second place moving into new hampshire and south carolina. given that, does that then provide a lane for vice president mike pence? i have a hard time seeing how the guy who was the vice president to the guy who stirred up and insurrection where people were running through the capitol screaming, hang mike pence, how he s gonna get their votes. would that open up, provide an opening for potentially, and especially as this country for iowa. iran s huge was evangelical voters saying donald trump should not be the nominee. that s huge. it s a huge deal, and that signifies of the evangelical beau still largely a programs. mike pence, that s his ideological, that s his safe home in republican politics, so to write him off immediately
well first he could ve been like, i don t think so, i don t remember, but i would have had the right to. so one, you re basically making admissions, and then two, you re making it clear that you re lying about your right to show people classified information, which provides evidence of consciousness of guilt. provide evevery time he opens his mouth, prosecutors win. you mentioned rico in relation to cases you tried and in relation to what s happening with donald trump, but we re looking at the potential of a rico case under georgia law at fulton county d.a. into the 2020 effort to overturn the 2020 election results in georgia. what does that signal to you about the making against trump and his allies? she s doing precisely what i would do and what most prosecutors would do. we investigate our cases broadly, and then we decide how narrowly to present them in
while former vice president mike pence is expected to give his kickoff speech in des moines, iowa on wednesday. they ll join nine other declared candidates and the rest race was so other lesser knowns, expected to throw their names in the ring before the first primary debate in august. but, new rules announced by the rnc just yesterday on who will be allowed to participate in the debates may kill some other campaigns before they even get off the ground. joining me now, doug heye, republican strategist and former rnc communications director and jennifer reuben, msnbc political analyst, washington post opinion writer, and author of resistance, how women save democracy from donald trump. thank you both very much for being here and being on said. doug, also with you. we need to talk strategy. the rnc, as i said, announced that candidates must get 40,000 you need campaign donors across 20 states and at least 1% in multiple national polls, and agreed to support the eventual nominee if they w