they met during, in december. so it wasn t, it s not a long-term relationship. they started to you know, basically connect after that decision meeting in 2016 in new york. that after that, then they connected and then that relationship continued according to people we talked to, after the inauguration, they got more into policy matters and things like that. all right. carol lee, thank you so much. we re going to be reading your new reporting at nbc news.com. and who knew that the seychelles was such a hot destination. i ve heard it s croatia or lib lis bon. i guess during the transition, the hot place to visit was the seychelles, because certainly everybody in the trump administration seemed to go there or know somebody who was there. now let s go to co-founder of axios, mike allen. mike, axios has new reporting on