policies of the trump administration. is that a fair assessment? i don t think so at all. we have done so much to rebuild the system that the trump administration dismantled. rebuilding our asylum system. we rescinded a public charge rule that sought to punish migrants in the trump administration for accessing benefits to which they are entitled under law. we have a unified more than 700,000 families that the trump administration so cruelly separated as a means of deterring people from coming to the border. congressman, your thoughts? well, first, this is not the malevolence of the trump administration. it s not forced family separation on purpose to be cruel. i agree with the secretary that this is an improvement over the years of donald trump and stephen miller and their administration. stephebut you ve got to call a e
election. even that goes a little too far. republicans have tried to figure out seeing their sinking numbers after dobbs, how do they message around? this donald trump himself has said, look, now it s a states rights issues. don t ask me about it. that proves not to be good enough for the pro-life constituency in the republican party. they want a national ban. ultimately, i believe a national ban will have to be supported by the republican nominee come next august. shannon, your first time with, us thank you so much. i hope you will come back. eugene, david, you are sticking with me. up next, the president moments ago addressing the debt ceiling. we will tell you what he said. plus, the title 42 over the process is like for those subpoena at our border. later, a year after the mass shooting in buffalo, the president renewing his push for gun safety as a group of moms urge you to sideline the flowers at this mother s day to keep kids safe. first, with richard lui the other big stori
doing that so that they are not we ve been through this process before in 2016. you had ron desantis who was being criticized for not being able to do real politic and do that in iowa he lucked out because donald trump canceled and postponed his own rally in iowa because of weather. the question is how sustainable is it for this man, ron desantis, for any of these republicans did not say donald trump s name, to talk about the culture of losing, as he put it, why i m not saying donald trump? to them, everyone knows what we are talking about. about. why do i have to attack the man? at some point on the debate stage, throughout this process, and they will have to convince people not just a vote for them, ron desantis, but also to vote against donald trump. you can tell people you are nice and sweet, you have to talk about why the other person should not be present and have the nomination. at some point, this will come to an end. david, here s the thing,
let s remind america what we are talking about here. this is at the core of house republicans trying to interfere with a criminal investigation and the indictment of donald trump and 32 some odd business fraud charges in new york. republicans have tried to interfere. what you see from pomerantz is saying i m not going to play your game. i m not going to let you interfere based on my participation and this. he rightly asserted that the privileges has, he s frustrated house republicans. to your point, lol. david, another candidate nikki haley downplay today the possibility of a federal abortion ban saying it is not politically realistic, that it would pass through congress. for a republican to make that promise would not be honest. i mean, and that is the right calculus but it is interesting to me that she is going out there and saying that. yeah. i m not sure it s the right calculus for the primary. you are spot on for the general
every election, including primary elections, comes down to a contrast between the two candidates. to your point, ron desantis has not drawn a contrast between himself and donald trump. all he said is, my path to winning is to stop losing. it sounds something like an a.i. chatbot would produce. [laughter] what is he doing? he s probably not the constituency available to him. the early success of ron desantis s he has entertained and courted the establishment, this commerce republican crowd that doesn t like donald trump. the reality is, even that crowd is still receptive to white nationalism. where donald trump sold white nationalism to the working men, ron desantis is selling into the chamber of commerce and country club sector. what s going to happen eventually is there is not enough voters in that set for ron desantis to overcome donald trump. to eugene s point, at some point he s going to have to say, why am i better than the last