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line, the world, if you will, to defend this man. katie: do you think he will ever be released? i know the name of your album is bring him home. but are you optimistic that will happen? i am. i mean, you have to have hope. you have to believe. and believe that that one whobe aspect surrounding this case will do the right thing. katie: dr. casey jordan is here. she is an attorney and criminologist. i know you ve gone through the trial records. what is the basis of this appeal? well, in the first trial, we had a hung jury. there was a criminalist who was being cross-examined by the confused d she became about the blood party evidence and at one point, the judge spoke up and told the court what he saw, which is very unusual. so after the hung jury, jury, we ended up having a sec trial because the prosecutor can try and try until they get a conviction. and the prosecution in that particular case, second case, invoked the words of the judge.
by the way, without giving anybody any notice except the prosecutor, once again which tends to be the theme of the prosecution in this case in a trial by ambush. what i made of this witness was he was just trying to tailor his testimony to what his pay masters, the prosecution, wanted him to say. i thought it was abysmal. i can t believe that somebody who is a scientist would do that. generally when you have either a pathologist or a criminalist or anybody else, they re up there to tell what you the science of it is. they re not up there to be for one side or the other. they re supposed to be taking someone by definition what science says is an objective view of things. jeff, what did you think? i thought this was another example of how this case has been somewhat overtried. cause of death is not at issue here. everybody knows how trayvon martin died. it is not controversial.