pregnant women, maternal death rates, will rise as a result of what is happening in the us today. let me quote you one from texas, 0b gyn professor drjesse munoz in san antonio. doctors whose patients develop pregnancy complications now are struggling to determine whether a woman is, quote, sick enough to justify an abortion. the art of medicine is lost and has actually been replaced by fear. the art of medicine is enshrined in the hippocratic 0ath, which was changed just because pro abortion activists in the late 60s decided it should. the hippocratic 0ath is do no harm, provide no potion that would kill another human being. that is the origin, and that morality, that fundamental pillar of medicine is the same and hasn t changed, even if people s minds have changed about what is actually happening. when they see pregnant
in an abortion. is it the same as an appendectomy? is it the same as a tonsillectomy? is there a chance that that is a human being with equal moral standing as yourself, at any stage during pregnancy? if there is a stage, think about when that is and what that thing is in there. my first thought was, i cannot, should not, no one should take the chance this is, just like my friend standing here in the room with me, someone with equal moral standing who deserves protection. just like i wouldn t go into a darkened room and spray bullets around, wondering if there was a person in there, you d never do that, it s too important a decision. that debate was not primarily catholic or theological. i became a philosophy major after being pre med at duke. it had a lot more to do with the intellectual arguments from many places. later, yes, my faith did come. part of it was, i realised i didn t know everything
in every state where there is a limit of any type, there is also companion legislation that addresses the needs of women and their unborn children, later born, at least in the first two years of life, providing a springboard, support and help in every way. when i say every way , think of a woman who is unemployed, already has a child, doesn t have healthcare or a home. this is a moment in her life she actually can get help, hope and practical support at a point where she had not, where some of the fundamental issues that led to the place where she is are addressed, whether addiction or mental health care or finishing what the united states calls a gre, how you finish high school education. the pro life movement is a movement ofjustice and mercy, and that s exactly where we are right now. what you ve just pointed to is the reality in america that abortion rates
so far, we know there will be fewer abortions because many states have already passed either complete or partial limits on abortion. even just yesterday in the state of georgia, their heartbeat ban, which means there is a limit at the point at which there is a perceived. ..or there is a heartbeat of the baby. the courtjust lifted its injunction of that law and it went into effect. that means about 20,000 fewer abortions just in the state of georgia. you ve immediately made the presumption that because something is illegal, it doesn t happen, but there is a mountain of evidence, not just from the united states, but from many other countries which have draconian abortion laws, which says those laws do not stop abortions happening, they simply happen underground. that s why your other part of the question about the care of women, about the healthcare piece of this, is vital and important.
let me just finish this last point. the public opinion polls consistently, and still after the supreme court ruling, show a clear majority of americans disapprove of criminalising abortion. amongst women, the disapproval is at its highest, 67%. two thirds of women do not want to see abortion banned. does that give you pause? no, i m giddy that you asked that question because the polling you described says nothing about where the consensus and majorities are. making this statement about what women do and don t want in this country gives no credence to the idea that women, even more than men, want to stop abortion around 15 weeks. women, more than men, pro choice women, think it shouldn t be allowed after the first trimester. when you say they wanted to preserve roe v wade,