gloria, thank you so much. when that press conference get under way, we ll go straight to it. let me talk to attorney ted spaulding. good to see you again. we might be interrupted by that press conference if it gets under way and we want to take that signal. investigators say they re not trying to assign blame to what happened, but in your view, is there a civil or criminal case that is building against oceangate? yes. i mean, i think there certainly is a civil case and i would be shocked if one or more families do not pursue and it called a wrongful death case. it a personal injury case. i would not be surprised if that gets filed. criminal-wise certainly from some of the narratives that i hear out there, there are some components that if it keeps going that way there might be a criminal investigation meaning if an oceangate or people within that operation
i m for the american people. we need to take care of our citizens first instead of having complete open borders, no lines. we re a nation of borders and i just disagree with their theory that it s not a criticism, it should not be a criticism of those trying to do their job as ice agents, as police officers are doing, and to not address this. i applaud the president for taking measures now to address it. the other presidents have not, particularly obama. eric: now that this ruling is there what are you concerned about if it stands, if someone has that type of credible fear hearing and then is let out without any tracking? it s sad for our country because you don t know what they are going to do criminal-wise in america, who they are bringing in with them. it is the detainment is the basic thing to stop them with. and to take that tool away i think is wrong and just shows