lawrence, i m gobsmacked by some of these numbers. i m just gonna leave it to you while i scratch my head. aly you , know that thing happens once in awhile where one of our great guests guests really is getting warmed up right when we have to go to commercial break because that s life on commercial television. that happened last week with yale professor david blight, who is an expert on the 14th amendment. he knows everything about how it came to be, the congressional debate about it. we are bringing back tonight finishes thoughts about that. that is worth watching because the most important amendment nobody ever thought about six months ago, and this is worth staying and listening to. certainly not in this context. and he will follow harvard law professor laurence tribe, also an expert on constitutional law and the 14th amendment, who will give us his view of how the 14th amendment, how it has the power to keep donald trump off the ballot in some states. i look forw
off the ballot in some states. i look forward to it, my friend. good to see you. thanks ali. we begin this hour with breaking news, mark meadows, criminal defendant mark defendants, codefendant of tom d entremont georgia, as just filed an appeal with the 11th circuit court of appeals asking for a hearing by the full court of appeals. his first appeal in that case was heard by a three judge panel, who rejected mark meadows attempt to move his case to federal court. he is currently being prosecuted in georgia, in fulton county, georgia. you want to that case removed a federal court. a three judge panel unanimously ruled against him. he is now asking to appeal to the full 11th circuit, that would be 12 judges who within here that case. that could then lead to him