established, and all those responsible for these atrocities must be brought to justice atrocities must be brought to justice. nato allies are supporting investigations, including through the united nations and the international criminai nations and the international criminal court. criminal court. that was jens stoltenberg criminal court. that was jens stoltenberg there, criminal court. that was jens stoltenberg there, the - criminal court. that was jens stoltenberg there, the nato l stoltenberg there, the nato secretary general. i m joined now by baroness kennedy, who is in central london. always good to see you. there is a lot of talk of the international criminal court and taking someone like vladimir putin to court, but that doesn t really sound realistic, does it?- that doesn t really sound realistic, does it? well, the problem realistic, does it? well, the problem about realistic, does it? well, the problem about criminal - problem about criminal prosecutions, even wh