its allies stepping up and being willing, again, to send this kind of heavy duty equipment. generally milley told jim ch shute the the world is at stake if russia gets away with its actions in ukraine. has there been a shift in tone from the administration? we are seeing a bit of a shifting in tone. this of course comes on the heels of defense secretary lloyd austin saying earlier this week that the u.s. would like to see russia weakened militarily, essentially that the u.s. wants to see russia weakened so much that it can t repeat what we re seeing in ukraine now in other areas of the region. now, this is quite the contrast from the past when we ve seen u.s. officials showing a real reluctance to engage in sort of the who is winning and who is losing conversation. i remember i sat in on a white house briefing not that long ago
came. now he brought her news that inspires pain and hope. vlad was free from a military detention center in russia. he says her grandson was there too. for weeks sasha s family didn t know if he was still alive, seized and held bly russian soldiers, they heard nothing about his safety after the invaders treated. they know the same pain and uncertainty. vladimir told them he knows their son was recently alive in the same detention center in russia. he says he heard his name shouted every day during roll call. there is comfort in that, but not enough to soothe a mother s anguish. i don t have hope anymore, helena says. i know they are beasts. they will kill them and no one will find them. ukrainian officials say dozens of people who were abducted from around the town of dima near
and so when you hear the chairman make that statement this morning, he s absolutely right. he s absolutely right because if we don t stand up to what the russians are trying to do in ukraine, we will undermine that international system, that international order, not only vis-a-vis russia and ukraine, but the world over. you heard that russia s foreign minister lavrov using the conflict as a proxy war against russia, also warning today that a nuclear world war iii is a serious risk. what does that biden administration say to that? is that just saber rattling in response to the meeting today? i think what we re seeing here, anderson, is the russians engage in this bravado and this propaganda and this bluster. certainly as a means by which to distract, to distract from the fact that they re losing the war, to distract from the fact that they ve lost the battle of kyiv, to distract from the fact that their economy and financial system is in ruins, and to
trying to threaten top american officials. but that showed that american officials came to ukraine when the war actually was ongoing and when they actually were risking a lot for putin and risk their lives to come here. that meant a lot. kherson is your hometown. officials in ukraine are saying today that pro-russian forces are struggling to hold a referendum there, but succeeded in changing the region government. i wonder what you re hearing from people in the city about that. i m in touch with the citizens and my family from kherson itself and kherson in general every day because i have a lot of relatives there. this is one of the most heartbreaking things that is happening to me. russia installs their regime. there are no freedoms there. there s humiliation of human rights, violation of human rights, and it s an atmosphere of fear.
they are to pay norfor gas in euros. the e.u. warned paying for russian gas in rubles would cause sanctions. two accounts for gazprom, one in euros, they say one could involve the russian central bank. the lag time between the depositing of the euros and the conversion into rubles could essentially mean, you know, europe s gas importers are loaning the money to gazprom which would be in violation of sanctions. the other thing they say, we don t know enough about the system russia has put in place to really know what is going on here and know how to deal with it. very unclear at the moment, but it doesn t seem like european countries are going to pay for gas, most of them, in rubles. and that means we could see more of these potential cutoffs of gas, very damaging to european