incomplete investigation and crime scene response. he talked about finding, in his words, pieces, what s left of paul who, of course, was shot and killed along with his mother maggie on june 7, 2021. that s testimony we ve heard from other witnesses who were there at the crime scene who noted it wasn t fully secured. but we also heard from these two expert witnesses that the defense brought on, one a pathologist and the other a crime scene expert. while they tried to refute testimony that we heard from state witnesses and law enforcement witnesses earlier during the trial about how they may have been killed, the direction of the bullets and shots that may have been shot at them, as well as something that s been a theme from the defense, the fact that there was maybe more than one shooter. more probably than not, whether there was one or two shooters who murdered maggie and paul on the night of june 7th.
started cleaning, and i promise you, no mother or father or aunt and uncle should ever have to see and do what i did that day. reporter: the prosecution pressing john marvin on his brother s lies to police about being at the dog kennel minutes before the murders. bubba. would you agree that that is not full cooperation? by him not telling s.l.e.d that he was at the kennel? correct. i would say that, yes, he lied. reporter: today the defense arguing to the jury there could not have been one shooter. my opinion is the totality of the evidence is more suggestive of a two-shooter scenario. reporter: a crime scene expert testifying there would have been no time for a single shooter to grab the second weapon and kill maggie. the jurors are scheduled to see the crime scene wednesday morning. david. eva pilgrim in south carolina again this week. thank you, eva. now to the new fight after that toxic train derailment in ohio. the question now, where to take the toxic waste?
to here. many of the jurors were physically turning away like that, although i heard that one of the jurors handed him a box of kleenex. did not like that. okay. so then the rebuttal witnesses, are these called then by the prosecution or the defense? how does that work? yeah. well, this is how it goes the state has the burden of proof. they have finished their case in chief. the defense is completing its case, we think either two to four witnesses. probably a pathologist and crime scene expert, whatever else they can dig up. in a lot of jurisdictions, you don t have to give notice of who your rebuttal and sur rebuttal witnesses will be. the state will rebut what the defense does. we re expecting two to three rebuttal witnesses. nancy grace, you re down there for us during this critical trial that s captured attention across america.
finally about to wind down. today we have seen two experts on the stand, one was a pathologist, and one was a crime scene expert. ah, i don t know how much of a dent they made, but all they have to do is get one juror to be confused. another bombshell today, and i hate to bring this up, but we all remember the o.j. simpson debacle where he was acquitted on double murder. well, in that case my old co-anchor, god rest his soul, johnny cochrane convinced the judge to have a, let me say, a visit, outing for the jury and went to simpson s home. guess what, there is going to be a jury trip to moselle. the hunting lodge and the dog kennel where maggie and paul were gunned down. that is fraught with the possibility of a mistrial. you see, one person go by with a sign that says murdaugh did it and they can move for a mistrial.
shot herself. and then partially released the gun magazine. the defense hired a crime scene expert to make his video. demonstrating how they believed it could be done. let the magazine released. but when it came to court to do the same demonstration in person, he failed. if you work the trigger, and get around to the magazine. sometimes i, can sometimes i can t. sometimes you hit the magazine released, after you fire a gun. but today i can t! there are smiles on your faces when that happens. i m sure there were! did you think that was a pivotal moment of the trial? i did. because i ve handled the same handgun.