prosec prosecutions that we have to keep working hard at. because you don t want to conduct multiple interviews with the same victim. that s not fair to the victim. so you have to be very, very careful who is interviewing whom, what are the protocols of those interviews, how is that evidence then collected and forwarded to the appropriate tribunal, domestic court, et cetera there is a great complexity. but i would also add that remember the crime of aggression is a leadership crime, and that means, frankly for, crime of aggression, you re not dealing with all those little crimes on the ground. you re looking at the leadership of russia. why did they or how did they actually launch this invasion, which is a crime of aggression? and it s under the umbrella of a crime of aggression that all these other crimes take place. but i would close this point, isa, by saying frankly, every single military action by the russian military on ukrainian territory is criminal in character because it is b
umbrella of a massive crime, which is the crime of aggression. yeah, and clearly the point you ve made very clearly there is it s not just about prosecuting those officers, the military that are conducting the hands in these war crimes, but the country itself. i think that is very that s important. david sheffer, always great to have your thoughts. i m sorry. we ll have to leave it there. i could speak to you for hours here. really appreciate it. thanks, david. thank you. and michael, this is what we have been hearing. we heard from the prosecutor general here. we have heard from the u.n. two days ago i heard from the eu. it s a huge investigation by all these different bodies really trying to verify everything that is happening. as you heard there from david, it s taking to it the next level, taking it to the
refuse to prosecute and will instead leave it to local district attorneys. it s my view that we have problems that we need our law enforcement to be dealing with like violent crime and drug trafficking, and we don t need to shift their focus from those important efforts to going after people for allegedly violating a ban that nobody had understood to be enforceable for almost 50 years. they don t care if people die. reporter: it reflects how uncertain the land scope would be in a post roe world. the most difficult question is whether states can reach out of their own borders to prosecute people, or whether states are going to prosecute patients for having abortions as louisiana seems to be doing. reporter: louisiana lawmakers passed a bill out of committee this week that would classify abortions as homicides, leaving the door open for patients to be prosecuted. and then there is the question about how officials would even
war. in this our case, crime of aggression, we have more than 600 suspects. and, of course, we started to prosecute them in absentia because all these people, the top politicians, top propaganda agents, they are in russian federation. war crimes, we have now 9,000 war crimes, only about war crimes. bombing and civilian objects, civilians, torturing, raping and near 9,000 cases. and we have 9,000 cases. iryna, i know you have your work cut out for you and how hard it is to document the history. i appreciate the work you re doing and i appreciate you being with us this morning. thank you. thank you very much. we will collect everything what