please make sure we don t go up to the capital. we are going to get charged of every crime imaginable. are you aware of any phone call by the united states president to the secretary? not that i m aware of, no. an immediate and forceful response. statements that people need to leave the capital now. i had a brief, private conversation where he said to me, we need to make sure that this doesn t happen. it s a legally terrible idea for us. a member of the committee and one of the republican members said this about the subpoena. this is probably bad for former president trump. actually just tells the truth. i have no doubt.
testifying about, quote, every crime imaginable. mr. cipollone said something to the effect of please don t make sure we don t go to the capitol. we re going to get charged with every crime imaginable if we make that movement happen. and do you remember which crimes mr. cipollone was concerned with? in the days leading up to the sixth, we had conversations about potentially obstructing justice or defrauding the electoral count. in the days leading up to it. joyce, they were worried about trump s criminality in the days leading up to january 6th. this seems like a huge and significant piece of information. it is significant, and i thought it was striking when she testified to that in the hearing. it goes back to jackie s really savvy analysis about what a difficult path doj has to sort of jump this gap from we re investigating trump s conduct to
criminal lanes of this set of plots to overturn the election. the times also reported some of the witness testimony outright surprised the justice department, reporting, prosecutors there were, quote, a stonished by things like this, what hutchinson laid all the. i overheard the president say something to the effect of, i don t eff ing care that they have weapons. they re not going to hurt me. we re going to get charged with of crime imaginable if we make that movement happen. in the days leading up to the 6th we had conversations about defrauding justice or the electoral count. that sounds like a witness you want to talk to, not prejudges whether it leads to a charge or how high it goes. but if you re not business of prosecuting federal crimes and you hear them coming out of the white house you want to know that. before what washington viewed as
marching into the capital was armed. i was in the vicinity of a conversation where the present day something today backed up, i don t care that they have weapons. cassidy hutchinson testifying under oath. she testified to the former presidents eagerness to join the mob of the capital. also to the white house councils horror at that prospect and his fear of being charged, according to her, with every crime imaginable. it s hard to imagine after that welcomes text. in a moment committee members, stephanie murphy, will be handling some of the question tomorrow joins us. but first, then you reporting on what to expect tomorrow. also an item justin with the former white house counsel was asked about in testimony on friday. cnn s ryan lewis joins us now with that. so whether you learned about that cipollone s estimating? well of course, anderson, everyone wants to know that similarly told committee last week during his 19 deposition. he was with the committee for more than four or seve
of staff mark meadows testified that he knew the mob he was about to incite and send marching to the capital was armed. i was in the vicinity where i heard a conversation and the president said something to the effect of, i don t care that they have weapons. cassidy hutchinson testifying under oath about that. she testified to the president s eagerness to join the mob at the capitol. also, his counsel s horror at the prospect and his fears being charged with, according to her, every crime imaginable. hard to imagine what happens next. in a moment, stephanie murphy will be handling some of the questions. first, new reporting on what to expect tomorrow and also an item on what the former white house counsel was asked about in testimony on friday. we are joined now. what have you learned about patsy pallone s testimony? everybody wants to know what