the classroom. but we also heard from gun owners who said, yeah, they re gun owners and they believe in the second amendment, but they do not believe that we should have assault-style weapons on our streets. so last night was a very good, like i said, spirited and i think productive discussion. we re looking forward to having additional ones and hopefully we can find solutions that work. but one thing was for sure last night there. there is agreement on both sides about doing something about gun violence. yours is a unique perspective, ma am, as you can an elected official now. but you re also a former police chief there. what is your sense of what can actually be done to make a difference as you marry both of these hats you ve worn? i really believe that a lot can be done. as a police chief, i worked hard to get illegal guns, what we call crime guns out of the hands of bad people, dangerous people,
the guns that are used in crimes across this country come from, wait for it, just 5% of the u.s. gun stores. let me say that again. 5% of the gun stores are supplying 90% of the crime guns that are being used in this country. the vast majority of crime guns are bought, not stolen. and the vast majority of gun stores sell no crime guns in any given year. so what are these so-called bad apple gun stores doing wrong or not doing right? and what can the rest of us do about this? want to ask the president of the brady campaign dan gross. he joins me live. the whole notion of the bad apple gun stores. there s a couple of things that you just line that give them that designation. let me put them up on the screen. we can guide our viewers what makes them this way. straw purchases, gun trafficking and selling off the books. can you package that up and
guns that you have in the united states and you have as many as 40 million people we re told with significant mental issues and you put that together, it is it s just a terrible combination. if you had your way, would you have stricter gun you know, background checks all the kind of things that gun control advocates want? i think a lot of these things have been around for years. i was secretary of the treasury and atf reported to me. we looked at issues such as the gun control loophole. we said that almost 70% of crime guns were coming through the gun control loophole. that to me and to most people seems like a no-brainer. the whole notion of going to a gun show that s there to sell guns and you and i don t have to go through a background check
what s going on, we have 20, 30, 40 times as many gun homicides as france and germany does, what do you think? i m very pessimistic about it. you have as many as 40 million people, we re told, with significant mental issues and you put that together, it s a terrible combination. if you had your way would you have stricter background checks? yeah. i think a lot of these things have been around for years. years ago i was the other secretary of the treasury and atf reported to me and we looked at issues as far as the gun show loophole, that a big, big deal. we said that almost 40% of crime guns were coming through the gun show loophole. it s narrow because the states
crime guns in the nation. that s why i think. now to update you on a story we brought yesterday. connecticut jury ruling in favor of a 12-year-old boy sued by his own aunt who you see here for $127,000 who says he broke her wrist after he jumped into her arms at miss birthday party. why would anyone take this to court on its face? there is something of a mystery going on beneath why she might have really sued him. what is it? i can t defend her but i can explain. take the child out of it. i go to one of author s houses. there s a floorboard that s up and i trip and he fails to fix it. i m going to sue arthur as i get hurt. his homeowners insurance policy will pay for my damages. i believe that s why this aunt