caution it s. ron klain having work to the judiciary committee with joe biden when he was chairman and the business of confirming those judges. ron klein told me about is last week of working for the white house that he s their underway fulfilling every vacancy in the federal courts. they might get to a point this year where they re sitting there with no vacancies. wow! that s just an astonishing accomplishment. at a time when it is abundantly clear how very important the judiciary is to be functioning democracy. exactly. we are joined tonight by harvard law officer professor laurence tribe to consider of among other things mike pence s novel to put it kindly, novel notion about why he should testify before a grand jury. novel is one way putting it or, it s account wait to see. it thanks. alex thank you. well the breaking news of the night is that special prosecutor jeff jack smith has invoked the crime fraud exception in a motion to force one of donald trump
among other things, mike pence s novel to put it kindly novel notion about why he should not have to testify before a grand jury. novel is one way of putting it, lawrence. i can t wait to see. it thanks, alex. thank you. well the breaking news of the night is that special prosecutor jeff jack smith has invoked the crime fraud exception in a motion to force one of donald trump s lawyers to testify before a grand jury without being able to refuse to answer questions because of the attorney client privilege. the crime fraud exception can overrule the attorney client privilege. the new york times is reporting tonight federal prosecutors overseeing the investigation into former president donald j trump s handling of classified documents are seeking to pierce assertions of client attorney privilege and compel lawyers to answer more questions before a grand jury according to two people familiar with the matter, adding an aggressive new dimension to the inquiry and und
msnbc headquarters in new york city. we got a lot to get to this hour. first a community in mourning as michigan state university remembers three killed during a mass shooting monday. students still trying to process the violence. all of us are numb to the whole situation. we have lived this our entire lives. i m still processing it. i honestly don t know if i can ever take a step foot into na union anymore. you see it on the news, but you never think it s going to be your school. and in fact, it is their school. we re learning more about the victims now as well, 20-year-old brian fraser was the president of his fraternity, 19-year-old ariel anderson, an aspiring surgeon, and 20-year-old alexandria verner, an all state athlete studying biology. police are still investigating the motive. we are learning more about the suspected gunman, ahead, the details about his criminal background and the chilling details that his father is now sharing. also this morning, fear a
. good to be with you, i m katy tur, former vice president mike pence is putting up a fight. a moment ago in minnesota, he told reporters he is pushing back on special counsel jack smith s subpoena requiring him to testify about january 6th. pence is citing the speech and debate clause, something normally reserved for sitting lawmakers. my fight is on the separation of powers. my fight against the doj s subpoenas very simply is on defending the prerogatives that i had as president of the senate to preside over the joint session of congress on january 6th. for me, this is a moment where you have to decide where you stand and i stand on the constitution of the united states. yesterday if you were with us, you would have heard former federal prosecutor paul butler tell us that argument, that speech and debate clause would be a good academic paper for a law student but not as good of an argument in court. after all, pence was not a legislator, technically. he was vice presi
trump s top aides, including then chief of staff, mark meadows. and mike pence could be staring down the same fate as his lawyer was seen entering a closed hearing about the subpoena he s been served. all this, as trump continues to post provocative, even dangerous messages about the manhattan district attorney, who s investigating him on another case. plus, congresswoman maxine waters joins the ranking member of the house financial services committee it s here to talk about another tumultuous week for the economy and what is next for every american worried about their mortgage rates, the cost of living, even the safety of their banks. and a very special meeting of the velshi banned book club will come to order. our guest this week is not an author, but a member of the club. she has 100 years old, a longtime defender of the freedom to read. her personal story is something we hold. velshi starts now. [interpreter] and good morning to you. it s saturday, march the 25th. i m a