there are make taking the wrong approach. i feel badly for you, i feel a little badly for john boehner because you are not defending these guys. the truth is that your folks want to deal. you are as frustrated as the american people are, but you all said if you had a majority of both houses you would govern effectively and you are failing at that most basic test. very quickly, kevin, your sons. i disagree with that. i think this is part of the process. it is a very messy process, richard, it is not one that we like. but, remember the president by taking unconstitutional action and forcing this debate he didn t help it either. and the democrats aren t exactly in a compromising mood they are the ones who are holding up a lot. do you really believe that the president took unconstitutional action you have your remedies. you can challenge that in court, you can already toert recommend tease that are available. no one said it was going to be pretty. watching the sausage being m
. it s absolutely irresponsible. i said the other night at the republican meeting that they are self righteous and delusional and they don t realize what s happening. that was republican congressman peter king calling out his party s right wing. lawmakers only managed to approve one week s worth of funding setting up another crucial test for john boehner s leadership. we ve got kevin madden former press secretary for house speaker john boehner, very key credential richard sock retease, a democratic strategist. we start with you, mr. madden. yes. what do you think mr. boehner thinks he can achieve by holding up this process when it looms over our heads like the last shut down and we foe how that went? look, i don t think boehner is interested in interested in holding up the pro he is is. i think so much of the maneuvering was an effort to try to get the process moving. he really does want to move his conference together i think
they re not listening to him? richard is right. john boehner, i believe, is very aware of that risk that we send a message to the american public that we can t govern. i think when you re and to alisyn s point when you are the president of the limited government you do pay a price should the government shut down. i think once the senate tries to move to conference this bill and that doesn t work there will be an effort to pass this and make sure that dhs is funded. i just want to because you worked for john boehner as press secretary where why is he having such a hard time corralling his conservative kau kuk cuss? this is not leadership on capitol hill is not an event it s a process. you have 50 to 60 members of the republican conference that believe that the true test of their conservativism is voting no often and that is a very big challenge. i think john boehner recognizes that and what he has been trying to do lately and i think that s evidenced by a lot of his actions