west about a meeting between trump s attorneys back when john dowd was on the team in march with robert mueller himself in which the attorneys floated the idea the president wouldn t be talking to them and robert mueller floated back the notion of subpoenaing the president of the united states. it was apparently a tense meeting and it was in that meet whg he this he talked about the areas and subjects and questions they would like to talk to the president about notes that were then written by jay sekulow, the president s legal team. it is that document leaked came to the new york times yesterday. we ve been parsing all day. here to help me understand what trump is really saying and what the white house is trying to do from a spin perspective which has been deceptively effective, new york times op-ed columnist michelle goldberg and attorney lisa green. so you ve got so many ways one part of the white house s approach which is for the trump base which is like let s put that to the
base which is like let s put that to the side. as the a crazy deep state conspiracy involving a mid level fbi agents you never heard of unless you watch lanity every night. i don t think that s working except on that crew of people. there is a working on the refs that is working the rest of us, bludgeoning people into accepting certain terms of the debate. just the fact we treat collusion as something that is a big question mark. there is so much evidence in the public domain of collusion. we don t know whether any of it rises to a criminal level but there is no question that the trump administration welcomed russia s help in sabotaging hillary clinton s campaign. there s none. so the fact that we even talk about collusion as an outstanding issue, the fact we don t consider it an admission of guilt or at least an add pligs of something suspicious that trump is so afraid of this process that i mean, it is his responsibility as president to participate in you know, kind of
the columbia professor got the memos dropped off to him, you are wondering if comey gave them to robert mueller. did mueller get the blessing to talk about them? we ve also sued for the fbi and doj to figure out how it is that comey was allowed to use as material in his book. it was either private or classified or confidential and he shouldn t have been able to use it. and mueller certainly have to have been involved in blessing that operation. you know, donald trump has a lot of enemies, and it mueller, comey, the deep state in the fbi and doj, and it s andrew mccabe. two of those people are facing jail time. the irony, quickly, brian, comey is in the same legal boat as hillary clinton right now. the mishandling of classified information is a significant legal liability for him and it was for her. you have to wonder whether he exonerated her because he was doing the same thing. brian: it was so quick,
not a man, excuse me. but i just can t understand how people like this get into these situations when they know full well the responsibility that having that level of clearance carries with it. honestly, i just i have trouble even processing this. it is hard to believe, honestly. i have to wonder if he s just trying to sell books or if this is made up, if this is part of this crazy deep state conspiracy theory stuff. i constantly hear thrown around that no one can really explain to me, we don t use that term on the democratic side.e. it s just all a lot to try to wrap my brain around, brian. brian: he never had a relationship with hillary clinton.in he talked about trying to meet her once and it didn t go so well, maybe he had a negative feeling about something.g. in the end, what he has to be transparent around with their relationship with loretta lynch. it would alleviate a lot of the mystery into why he acted the way he acted. just come out and say i couldn t
hillary clinton. not, excuse me. but i just can t understand how people like this get into these situations when they know full well the responsibility that having that level of clearance carries with it. honestly, i just i have trouble even processing this. it is hard to believe, honestly. i have to wonder if he s just trying to sell books or if this is made up, if this is part of this crazy deep state conspiracy theory stuff. i constantly hear thrown around that no one can really explain to me, we don t use that term on the democratic side. it s just all a lot to try to wrap my brain around, brian. brian: he never had a relationship with hillary clinton. he talked about trying to meet her wants and it didn t go so well, maybe he had a negative feeling about something. in the end, what he has to be transparence around with their relationship with loretta lynch. it would alleviate a lot of the mystery into why he acted the