I think id probably have to ask to entertain a motion to adopt that program as a start of a resolution and then look at a second. Josh, president , i love you. I love you dearly. We cant do this. [laughter] ill be you know, and if we are even if we were, then i think that we have said stated what it is that we care about. And you in your infinite lawyer brain need to either spit this out and write it down or we need to, you know, or we cant do it like this. [multiple voices] right, were a city and county commission. , and you know, were about to i love you, man. Were about to approve a resolution that has not been out there, you know. I thought that we could approve a statement that says our general feeling, you know, kind of a motion that, that, you know, conveys that, look, this is how we are. But to sit here and craft a motion, you know, we cant do that, brother. We cant do it, and im concerned im concerned that if we did do that and it was a motion it was a resolution that we craft
Contracts they have available for us to get instate labor, hydro, ghg free, start to go away because theyre going to start selling those contracts to other vendors that they have, other people that want to buy that energy. And, so, we need to keep this thing moving forward. I understand, commissioner arce, that you have some kaiserious concerns. Those are concerns that have nothing to do with the not to exceed rate. They have other program designs and we can continue to have this discussion. You doughthv need a resolution to have that continued discussion. Simply ask the puc staff, i am 100 willing to bet with anyone that ken malcolm and anyone else with the puc would be willing to come back and have those discussions with you here or if you want to have more sitdown meetings one on one with any of you that have questions, we can do all of this. I think what youre about to do is going to seriously harm this program and i would encourage you to volt no on that resolution at this time. T
Were about to approve a resolution that has not been out there, you know. I thought that we could approve a statement that says our general feeling, you know, kind of a motion that, that, you know, conveys that, look, this is how we are. But to sit here and craft a motion, you know, we cant do that, brother. We cant do it, and im concerned im concerned that if we did do that and it was a motion it was a resolution that we crafted here that, you know, had not been brown acted or anything, im concerned how anybody would take it, you know, the legitimacy of it. So, like i said, and im concerned about the time, you know. Youre brilliant, and even you are struggling to put everything together. And then when you do it, its going to be and even when you do it, its going to be on a tablet. I have really good penmanship. Not from where i sit. [laughter] but let me ask you, before we hear from other folks, im going to come back and ask whats our statement . Any other thoughts from commission col
So, i want to scare you a little bit and reassure you a lot. The scare you part is that commissioner arce, youre absolutely right. They could set the not to exceed rate next week. They could move forward with a Shell Program and no other program, which as i said is only less than 4 of what we envision. So, but with that said, the reason that advocates have recently voted and said to the sfpuc and to lafco we would like them to proceed with these not to exceed rates is because they are now competitive with pg e. Especially if you compare it to a pg e green rate. And what ms. Malcolm proposed to us tonight are rates that will probably be even more competitive, even competitive with pg es brown power rate. The issue with the shell contract is that whether we like it or not, the local buildout that we all want is no longer tied to the small phase 1 part of the program. Its no longer tied to the shell contract. So, the reality is now that the shell contract is going to have competitive rate
That goal as well. Thank you, commissioner king. If i may take a crack. Okay, lawyer. Weve got a couple of us. We may have more of us commissioners. Lots of good policy folks. [speaker not understood]. Oh, okay. Im giving you my wifes number so she knows i was really here. [laughter] to me its two components. The one is probably pretty easy to kind of reach consensus around. The second, give it a shot. The first consensus is that whereas the San Francisco Public Utilities commission is scheduled to consider adoption of rates for the clean power sf program on august 13th, 2013. And clean power sf is a program that San Francisco commission on the environment supported in a september 2012 resolution. So, if were to piece together a statement, i would like to we dont have a deputy ca. I think id probably have to ask to entertain a motion to adopt that program as a start of a resolution and then look at a second. Josh, president , i love you. I love you dearly. We cant do this. [laughter] i