also right here on msnbc. from all of our colleagues across the network of nbc news, thank you for staying up late. i ll see you this weekend. ou this weekend. thanks to you at home for joining us this evening, we have some big breaking news, nbc news has now confirmed the former vice president, mike pence has been subpoenaed by special counsel, jack smith. the man who is overseeing the investigation into trump s effort to overturn the results of the 2020. election including the attack on the u.s. capital. the news was first reported by abc news. we don t know exactly what information was sought, in that subpoena, but according to abc it comes after months of negotiations between federal prosecutors and pence s legal team. both the special counsel s office and the spokesman for the former vice president are declining to comment to nbc about this new development. but, this is the first time the former vice president has been subpoenaed in any matters, related to the 2020 elect
would you like me to read the tweet? now that it s my hour we can put it in. we can put in public record, that s awesome, and hilarious. i m sorry the studio could hear me chortling. i m glad, you know me. i love laughter. it was a plus television production my friend. thanks to you at home for joining us this evening. we have some big breaking news. nbc news has now confirmed that former vice president, mike pence, has been subpoenaed by special counsel jack smith. the man who s overseeing the investigation into trump s efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election. including the attack on the u.s. capitol. the news was first reported by abc news. we don t know exactly what information was sodden at subpoena. but according to abc, it comes after months of negotiations between federal prosecutors, and pence s legal team. but the special counsel s office and a spokesman for the former vice president, are declining to comment nbc about this new development. thi
president says to take accent if the code is been violated. what kind of intel do you have on the courts argument against something like this? , well here is a theory of the case. we ve had this remarkable report in which the supreme court has been talking about a code for four years. clearly, there is a group of justices who think this is a good idea. and there s a group of justices we think it s not a good idea. justice roberts, justice alito, they ve testified before congress in the past about their disdain, or their skepticism about this code. my worry is, that conservative justices on the court don t really think judges, they don t think they should be bound by the same total combat does every other federal court judge. their policy makers, not judge. as they re making not interpreting law. the new justices, gorsuch, kavanaugh, coney barrett, they ran campaigns for the supreme court. just like we run campaigns for
court itself, just like sanction of members of congress is ultimately up to congress. but we have a code of ethics. we have a process by which investigation is done on a member of congress. that is simply what we want to have happen here. have a binding code. have a process of investigation. and then, when that investigation is done, and the american public can see it, that will provide pressure on the justices to take action if the code has been violated. what kind of intel do you have on the courts argument against something like this? here is a theory of the case. because we have had this remarkable in which the supreme court has apparently been talking about developing a code for four years. so, clearly, there is a group of justices who think this is a good idea, and a group of justices who think this is not a good idea. just as justice roberts, justice alito, they ve testified before congress in the past about their disdain, or their skepticism about this code. my worry is,
determines substance it, the courts determine procedure. shifting the burden of proof is procedural. those courts argument. no doubt anticipating a lot of pushback. you heard some from philip. heard other places. you re hearing a lot of it. it just happened yesterday. it s a 14 page ruling, really justifying why the court came to the decision that it did. we still have this law in florida. determining how it moves forward, obviously, that will be through the court and not legislature. molly: and it does not matter in these issues. such a hot button topic. florida governor signed the legislation. backed by the national rifle association. florida legislatures but this is said by jeb bush back in 2015 in the wake of the zimmerman trial. in florida, you can defend yourself anywhere you have a legal right to be. in florida, you can defend yourself anywhere you a legal right to be.