that s what a lot of people don t seem to understand. i was not working in the courthouse. he was in the pasadena courthouse in california, a small courthouse with ten other court of appeals judges in that courthou courthouse. i, of course, was working in washington, d.c.. when you did see and talk with judge kazinski, what types of things did you talk about? we were among the 12 co-authors of the brian-garner led book on just terrible precedent. so for several years, that was a problem. all of us were the 12 of us i guess if toll were working on that, judge dianne wood a chief judge of the 7th circuit. justice gorsuch was a co-author, so we worked on that as a group. justice kennedy for the last 30 years had had judge kazinski run justice kennedy s hiring process. in the course of that process, i
believes the next step in his plan is. what sort of places are you concerned he could target? well, obviously when you read the document that he sent to the white house, he has a strong dislike or hatred towards government officials, both local and federal and state level. so we re concerned that if his end game is to inflict casualties, then he may go someplace where there are going to be a large number of people. so we have tried to increase our security at areas such as the courthou courthouse, school events. we know he has obviously this arsenal of guns, bulletproof vest, helmet. how dangerous is he? when you look at the document he wrote and sent, it s very lengthy. it s very detailed. one that obviously he has put a lot of thought and effort into.
thank you very much, angelique, thank you for being here. it is not surprising here. if the victim does not show any physical resistance, it is irrelevant. mayes was shown to have sex with the victim. what had to be proved under ohio law is she was incapable of giving consent because she was incapacitated. yes. the defense made the argument that silence was consent. she does not have to say no. ron allen was covering the says. he will join us from the courthou courthouse. do we have ron? reporter: yes, i m here, joy.
although the perpetrator of this evil act has received a lot of attention over the last couple of days, that attention will fade away. and in the end, after he has felt the full force of our justice system, what will be remembered are the good people who are impacted by this tragedy. we re exploring this tragedy in depth this morning. we ll hear from survivors of the shooting and also going to hear from the mayor of aurora, a clinical psychologist, and former fbi agent and speak exclusively with a man who was a camp counselor with holmes. we begin with an interview with two young women, micayla hicks and lori shaffer, next to where the gunman open fire, a bullet passed through the wall and struck micayla right in the chin. lori was sitting next to micayla. how does your chin feel? it hurts pretty bad in my gums, bottom gums got pushed back by the bullet and one oth was knocked out and luckily caught it in my hand. the tooth next to the bottom front got moved around an
just minutes from now, ohio s school shooting suspect, t.j. lane, will be in court, and we now know just in the last hour we have found out that the weapon used in the shooting was a ..22 caliber handgun, and authorities said he told authorities he stole the gun from his uncle. more on that in a moment. witnesses say teenager t.j. lane has shot five people in the chardon high school cafeteria. this was monday right around 7:30 a.m. students daniel parmentor, russell king and demetriu demetrius hewling were killed. two other kids are still in the hospital. we don t know where the shooter is. there is a four one down in room 200. i want to bring in ted rowlands. he s just outside that courthouse and will be seeing this young man appear in less than half an hour. tell me, do we know specifically what the purpose of today s court appearance is? i m sorry, brooke, i think you asked about the hearing coming up, and that is expected to be very short. the purpose of the hearing