assange and whether you think this is a prosecuteiable offense. what do you think now that he s in court in london? it s funny he s in court on london an extradition from the swedish government on rape allegations. there are questions about the legality of his bank account in switzerland but the real charges, the ones that ought to concern us, are whether or not he s guilty of the espionage act and possibly other acts that senator diane fiep stein and in the wall street journal, democrats in california, are saying that he is. i think i agree with that argument. he is willfully he has willfully disclosed secret u.s. informs, and by the way, not just the diplomatic cables we ve been talking about for the last ten days or so. really even more so than what like the disclosures from afghanistan about the summer. martha: as you point out, people were not out that all that outraged about the iraq and afghanistan discloses this disclosures this summer. they have seemed to have