smell of death in the darian gap. and that just speaks to the risks that migrants are willing to take to come here to the united states for a better life. i just can t tell you how many migrants i ve spoken to who say that they sold everything in their home countries to come here to the united states because they think that the u.s. southern border is open. and all of this back and forth with title 42 is not helping in the messaging. no, not at all. and of course the biden administration said even if it s lifted, the border is still closed. but that s not the message that s gotten through. incredible reporting, rosa, thank you. and there is a development here on capitol hill now. that break story that i mentioned about trump s taxes. the democratic-controlled house ways and means committee is meeting right now. they have gathered bringing cameras in the room to vote to decide whether or not to release six years of trump s tax returns. so those tax returns span the near 2015 as trum
explored in the documents we have because we were limited to a very narrow period of time, those six years. further, there was no conversation between our staff and any of the irs auditors or employees to determine what exactly happened or didn t happen. we only have a few scattered notes in order to put the puzzle together. so, okay. so you re saying 2015, $105 million loss that he claimed that as you re saying without that was a carryover. and because we did not have the capacity to look at the prior years, we cannot determine the origin of that carryover. did you see, congressman i m sorry i overtalked you for a second. but did you see any evidence of him being compromised in the way that you were ultimately concerned about, that what you would see in his tax picture would show that his actions as president were perhaps compromised?
you saw representative brady there with some parliamentary points to chairman neal. and that is to release trump s tax returns from 2015 to 2020, or perhaps some summary. not totally clear to me. so, manu raju, can you explain, what do you understand that they have just voted to release? obviously they are going to be clarifying no tax i.d., social security number is going to be removed. that was a specific point. but, i mean, what is getting released to the public? reporter: this is a major development after years of not seeing donald trump s tax returns, there is a clear sign, a movement by congress to potentially release donald trump s tax returns or a summary of those returns to the public. what just happened was a vote along straight party lines. republicans all voting against a motion to submit this report for the record. democrats all voting in favor of it. democrats still in the majority for another couple of weeks going down along party lines 24-16 was the vote.
maintain a luxurious lifestyle like mr. trump and pay no taxes? i think we re going to see he s paying next to among. but, you know, i don t want to point a finger at him until we see just how he handled his tax returns or how his accountant handled those tax returns. and when looking at the tax returns, we always want a frame of reference. what we would really like to see the books and records that support the tax return. but we d also like to see financial statements submitted to the banks for loan applications, and are assets and liabilities on those statements commensurate with what is on his tax returns? so, ryan that s what i would think. ryan, do you think when we look at these knowing and let s just be clear, trump has great accountants, and things are done it s not going to be just, like, oh, my gosh, look at this investment in blank.
such time as the day they received mr. neal s request for these documents, and that day they requested the first audit. they have yet to complete a single audit of mr. trump. and i think they ll also be surprised by what s not there with the tax returns. and that is supporting data, any taxpayer who goes in for audit has to produce some receipts and some affidavits and some substantiation. and that just seems to be missing from what we ve been provided. so, in that context, just to be clear, is you re saying that they didn t begin the audit until the request came in. then they the same day. it sounds like what you re saying i don t want to jump to a conclusion so i want to make sure i m right that they then requested, they had questions about various things and then reached out to trump to ask those questions, and that trump did not respond with the backup data to make his case for why he did what he did? i think you will see tens of