correspondent pamela brown is getting more information. what are you learning? we have learned that apparently richard matt had gotten ahold of a gun and had shot at the driver of a camper in an apparent carjacking. that s what officials think he was trying to do along with david sweat. this was a car does that jacking. she thought she driver and the driver of that camper called 911 and alerted authorities. we have learned that after that according to sources, there was a shootout and that is when richard matt was killed. wolf? so the obvious conclusion is these guys are armed, at least one of them, richard matt was armed and fired a weapon. is that right? that s right. what officials are trying to do is figure out if of course david sweat has a weapon and where they were ability to get these weapons. we know they raided a cabin over the last few days so there s thinking perhaps they could