that s why those numbers may be a little high. on the flip side, as you mentioned, the number of dead is 14. there s a big concern that that number will rise over the next several days. there is concern that some of those victims may be trapped under feet of debris and mud. so, they re concerned that once they get in and start to excavate the area, they will find more bodies. that s why the search today is so critical, as crews are running out of time. luke? miguel, i just want to go at you in terms of this mud slide, is this brought on by heavy rain or this time of year? how does something like this physically occur? reporter: here in the northwest, quite often. this hillside has been vulnerable for some years. engineers say they ve warned local county government officials that this hillside was unstable for up to 60 years and warned that a catastrophic failure was imminent. there was a slide here on this