that is the sackler family, purr due, being unwilling to reach into their personal fortunes to pay for the damage they created here in pennsylvania and across the country. there is a punitive part, on the other side there is the idea that it cost states like pennsylvania and the whole country multis of what this proposed settlement would look like. so what do you want to get? what would feel like success to you? the sacklers admitting responsibility and paying out of their personal fortune may feel good, sbu the goal to pay for the damage mitigated by the crisis. i think we need real transparency here. there has to be an acknowledgment of the wrong doing. they have benefitted to $10 billion in profit.