the homeland security committee and michael sheehan, head of operations at the pentagon. thank you for being here. good to be here. congressman, how concerned are you about the people in the u.s. and the people in the u.s. going to fight for isis? well we are very concerned. obviously the isis propaganda machine is working. it s drawing people to syria, to iraq. but they are being told explicitly if they can t make that trip to undertake home-grown terrorism. this is a real problem. the good thing is our counterterrorism officials are working diligently and in counterterrorism you never get credit for what didn t happen. congressman, we just heard the fbi director say, and you repeat, they are told if they can t get to the states to kill people where you are? that s what you re hearing. and that s a meaj juror problem.
at least one hostage. police tracked the suspects down after they stole a car, and shots were fired. more now from abc. reporter: the french national guard are swarming a town north of paris at this hour where the two suspects from this week s deadly newspaper attack are reportedly holding a hostage inside a business. french officials say a massive operation is underway to detain the suspects. [ gunfire ] reporter: this was the last time the world saw the gunmen brothers with assault rifles who french police say are heavily armed and dangerous. these are orphans looking for family and want to belong to something and feel like they need revenge. reporter: french authorities acknowledged today that both brothers, aged 32 and 34 were known to counterterrorism officials. in fact, both of them are on the u.s. no-fly list. but apparently they were not considered worth tracking. i think france has a problem of too little capacity, you know too many threats. reporter: french offi
this to try and capture these men. 88,000 force surrounding these areas. you can imagine the villagers in this community very scared overnight as to what might happen. police searched garden sheds they searched garages hoping to zero in on these suspects. we are learning much more about the brothers. both on the terror radar for years. aid is and cherif were known to counterterrorism officials in france and the u.s. they were both on the u.s. no-fly lists. the younger brother was once an aspiring rapper but was arrested in 2005 sent to prison for trying to join al qaeda in iraq. these were orphans looking for family and want to belong to something and feel like they need revenge. the older brother trained with al qaeda in yemen but was never prosecuted or convicted. they were born in paris to algerian parents. officials are still trying to
after they stole a car. shots were fired. more now. reporter: the french national guard are swarming a town north of paris at this hour where the two suspects from this week s deadly newspaper attack are reportedly holding a hostage inside a business. french officials say a massive operation is underway to detain the suspects. [ gunfire ] reporter: this of the last time the world saw the brothers with assault rifles who french policevey heavily armed and police say are heavily armed and dangerous. they are orphans and want to feel they belong to something and feel the need for revenge. reporter: both brothers aged 32 and 34 were known to counterterrorism officials. both are on the u.s. no-fly list but apparently they were not considered worth tracking. i think france has a problem of too little capacity, you know too many friends. reporter: french officials passed along intelligence to the u.s. that one of the gunmen visited yemen in 2011 and
we are learning much more about the brothers. both on the terror radar for years. aid is and cherif were known to counterterrorism officials in france and the u.s. they were both on the u.s. no-fly lists. we ll get new developments later on america this morning. the search for those black boxes of the downed airasia jet. haunting video to show you now. those are indonesian military divers at the tail section of the plane. the leader of the search effort says that section will be recovered today if conditions allow. at least three more victims bodies were recovered this morning raising the total to 47 of the 162 people on board. the naacp office in colorado springs has reopened after an explosion there on tuesday shut it down. federal investigators are looking into all possibilities, including whether it was an act of domestic terrorism. the fbi is looking for a balding