lead to other people doing it but they can be used to recruit people. they can be used to fire up people in this country and we ve seen this. we just saw it in boston, people getting fired up by what we did in afghanistan and iraq and using that as a basis for their own radicalization. that s right, chris. and that s why you and david are exactly right say iing put in t proper perspective, let s be very clear, barack obama has been an ass kicker when it comes to al qaeda. he took out bin laden. he decimated took a buzz saw to al qaeda and they are now decimated. and, secondly, he has properly put forth the obama doctrine which is the counter insurgency doctrine to the counterterrorism doctrine being very specific, not nation building. we are now focusing our efforts on nation building here at home. patrick, i couldn t agree with you more. david corn, thank you, sir. coming up, where is the irs scandal going from here? big question, open question. the official overseeing it has
and using that as a basis for their own radicalization. that s right, chris. that s why you and david are exactly right when you re saying putting it in the proper perspective. let s be very clear. barack obama has been an ass kicker when it comes to al qaeda. he took out bin laden. he decimated, took a buzz saw to al qaeda. they are now decimated. secondly, he has properly put forward the obama doctrine which is a shift to the counterterrorism doctrine. to be very specific, not nation building. we re focusing our efforts on nation building here at home. chris, you know why that s important? look what happened last night in the state of washington. a bridge collapsed. look what happened 5 1/2 years ago in minnesota. a bridge collapsed and 13 people were killed in minnesota. there are 75,000 bridges that are structurally deficient in our country. are we waiting for your kids or
secondly, he has properly put forward the obama doctrine which is a shift to the counterterrorism doctrine. to be very specific, not nation building. we re focusing our efforts on nation building here at home. chris, you know why that s important? look what happened last night in the state of washington. a bridge collapsed. look what happened 5 1/2 years ago in minnesota. a bridge collapsed and 13 people were killed in minnesota. there are 75,000 bridges that are structurally deficient in our country. are we waiting for your kids or my kids to be killed? it s time to start nation building here at home. start bringing the troops home from afghanistan. refocus our efforts on the true threats but most importantly on nation building here at home. and not continuing this military industrial complexion that bush and cheney started. well said. thanks for coming on. patrick murphy, couldn t agree with you more. david corn, thank you, sir.
12 years and whether the country feels connected to them. but there s a specific problem with drone warfare when our officials have to deny that they have any knowledge that these things are happening. do you think it would make any difference when officials who are supposedly directing the war to have to admit this stuff to us? well, it does give, there is some ability under title 50, what the cia s under, that because they can basically lie, because it s a covert program. they don t have to be necessarily forthful and they wouldn t be perjury. they can still have clandestine programs, but they can t lie to the congress or they ll be held in contempt of congress. but i do think it s a shift, rachel, of president obama s war fighting. he s going clearly from a counterinsurgency to a counterterrorism doctrine. he s being very specific. counterinsurgency is a lot of manpower.
we just saw it in boston. people getting fired up by what we did in afghanistan or iraq and using that as a basis for their own radicalization. that s right, chris. that s why you and david are exactly right when you re saying putting it in the proper perspective. let s be very clear. barack obama has been an ass kicker when it comes to al qaeda. he took out bin laden. he decimated, took a buzz saw to al qaeda. they are now decimated. secondly, he has properly put forward the obama doctrine which is a shift to the counterterrorism doctrine. to be very specific, not nation building. we re focusing our efforts on nation building here at home. patrick murphy, couldn t agree with you more. coming up, where is the irs scandal going from here? a big question. the official overseeing has been removed from duty.