and one way investigations can naturally evolve cassidy hutchinson testifies yesterday, the subpoena for pat cipollone comes today. one thing leads to another. particular mid-level and junior level staffers who look at cassidy hutchinson and say i want to go down in history like her. the final two hearings are meant to focus on trump summoning the mob and trump failing to take immediate action to stop the violence. i mean one question that s still out there, a direct line between the oath keepers and the proud boys to the white house. what are your thoughts on that? i think that s what s going to be interesting about those hearings. you know, don, i ve had this discussion i m not going to talk about that too much, but i will tell you the committee has a tremendous amount of data and information about those right wing extreme groups and the investigative teams are incredibly good. it s going to be a red team day. the red team is going to be leading a lot of that, and those guys are
thank you, i appreciate it. next the man who was at the other end of pennsylvania avenue on january 6th when the violence was on the way. what congressman jason crow thinks is important about testimony from pat cipollone. there he is. we ll talk to him after the break. vending machines and buying a car 100 percent online now we ve created a brand new way for you to sell your car whether it s a year old, or a few years old we want to buy your car so go to carvana enter your license plate answer a few questions and our techno wizardry calculates your car s value and gives you a real offer in seconds when you re ready we ll come to you pay you on the spot and pick up your car that s it so ditch the old way of selling your car and say hello to the new way at carvana
a major development in the january 6th investigation. the select committee issuing a subpoena for former trump white house counsel pat cipollone. he is a key witness to what was going on inside the white house in the days before, during, and after the attack on the united states capitol. i want to bring in now cnn congressional correspondent ryan nobles and former nixon white house counsel john dean. gents, good evening. thank you so much. ryan, i m going to start with you on the reporting here. what are you learning about the subpoena for pat cipollone? well, i think it got to the point, don, where the committee just felt they exhausted every option they could to try and get pat cipollone come in voluntarily. they had informal conversations with cipollone himself,
officers who who have been wounded for life. there are people that have been traumatized, and they knew about it. they knew it was going to happen. congressman, the committee has now subpoenaed former white house counselor pat cipollone. how important is that testimony after what we learned on tuesday? well, it s really important. i mean, think about the testimony of ms. hutchinson who was in the room where the conversations were happening. but in pat cipollone you have one of the president s trusted advisers, one of his most trusted advisers, so much so the president entrusted in pat cipollone the defense of his first impeachment trial. and i know that because i actually debated and went head to head with pat cipollone in the first impeachment trial when i was prosecuting that case. this is somebody who has had very, very deep conversations with the president who was in that inner circle and people know what was going on and if anyone knows what was going on
every crime imaginable if we make that movement happen. he s still sitting on his phone and i remember pat saying to him something to the effect of the rioters have gotten to the capitol, mark, we need to go down and see the president flow. and mark looked up and said he doesn t want to do anything, pat. and pat said something to the effect of and very clearly said this to mark, something to the effect of, mark, something needs to be done or people are going to die and the blood s going to be on your f-ing hands, this is getting out of control, i m going down there. pat cipollone weighed in at one point i remember saying that letter this guy wants to send, that letter is a murder suicide pact. it s going to damage everyone who touches it, and we should have nothing to do with that letter. pat cipollone intervened when