want to make it sound the way you want to make it sound. is he colluding with russia? that fits into that category very well. but then you could also find arguments to say he wasn t really doing anything out of the ordinary, given he s president trump and given his behavior as president so far. until you see really real evidence that connects him, that shows he had something to gain by this relationship with russia, undermining the u.s., and i would argue if that would have happened, we would have heard about it, given the way things leak out of the mueller probe eric: a lot of this stuff is sealed, you know. and prosecutors keep their mouths shuts. no, they don t. [laughter] we could argue about that another time. eric: a lot of this stuff, we don t know if they potentially have something. what would the threshold be and how would it work for a legitimate investigation of the president of the united states, to do you go to the attorney general, do you go to a federal judge f
every moment that special counsel mueller and happy new year to you, reverend. happy new year to you. thank you. was involved in his investigation, there was always a threat hanging over his investigation by this white house. first his contempt that he had for his own attorney general, meaning the president, mad at general sessions because he recused himself, his intimidation of the deputy attorney general rosenstein calling him to the white house, and his firing of james comey. there was always something. so we as members of the committee thought it was important to have the kind of legislative protection that would hold the president accountable in any effort that he made to fire and interrupt and interject himself into the investigation. this legislation will allow the special counsel to be able to challenge any firing and for his firing to be only on the basis for cause.
president has launched on generals, gold star families, even members of his own cabinet. look, i think we need more civility in politics, but i think it is important that we make clear that this president should be investigated. for now i think we ought to leave impeachment off the table. i think we should be focusing on smart, targeted oversight, oversight that improves the fin functioning of government, shores up the institutions of our government, that helps ferret out wrongdoing. and let s wait and see where the mueller report goes before we start talking about impeachment. shermichael, when many of us have been saying where are the grown-ups in the republican party, this week there was an op-ed piece, pretty scathing piece, on the character of the president by now senator he was senator-elect when he wrote it a couple of days ago but he s now been sworn in, mitt romney of utah.
some elements of the investigation with the president? absolutely. will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest? that s what it is, it is him saying repeatedly i don t like this, i done like this to the person who he believes can make the change. it is obstruction. and if whitaker had half an ounce of ethics he would have said mr. president stop, do not talk to me about this. and he would have called mueller on the phone and told him about it or he would have called the southern district on the phone and toll them about it and would have been prepared to testify before the grand jury about it. it is improper. it is obstruction. it also makes him a fact witness and means for reason number 742 that he should not be overseeing this investigation and he should recuse himself. do you think, mimi, whitaker could now be considered a direct subject himself in this obstruction investigation? yes, but with one qualifier. it is not actually totally clear to me that the obstruction that we a
there may very well be some form of an interim report. i get that. and i because the reporters who have said this are so good, i would hesitate to contradict them or what they found. but there is still a lot to be done. this is why i think it is unlikely there is a wrap. for example, we are waiting for theston and creditco indictments. we haven t found out whether or not mueller is going to go forward with a subpoena for the president or follow-up questions. mueller just won this grand jury subpoena issue which we think haas to do with bachg records from oversees. we don t know if the records were produced yet. there was a hefty fine if they weren t produced immediately. they might have been. we don t know whether he has done anything with those records. he hasn t interviewed don jr. i don t believe he interviewed ivanka. there are so many things that