megyn: yeah. harris: and then to have settled for more, you were just not going to give up. i mean, it s riveting. megyn: there was no way. you all know, it was the first presidential debate. you remember. yeah, i remember, i was there. thanks a lot for reminding me. [laughter] megyn: the 2016 season. and this was the super bowl of electoral politics. we would get 25 million viewers that night, and i was hurling over the bowl about six hours earlier, and i didn t i mean, abby, my assistant saw me and just thought def con 1. and then my amazing doctor called me in some medication, to this day i don t know what it was. could have been on an antipsychotic at that debate, couldn t tell you [laughter] but it stopped me from vomiting, and we don t have to vomit anymore in harris: that was the one, why didn t i no this when we were having children? [laughter] megyn: truly, that is another
the roll-out set the president back more than probably any other thing in his presidency so far. as she steps down it r from this role, will her legacy now be defined by the past five months, by these failures? i honestly don t really think so. i think that most people that don t follow politics very closely couldn t tell you who hhs secretary was under george w. bush when the medicare part d roll-out was just as disastrous as this roll-out has been or was in the early months. what the administration is known for in terms of medicare is expanding the entitlement and giving seniors this prescription drug benefit. i think to the extent that hhs secretaries have legacies, her legacy will be hhs secretary during this major expansion of health insurance, and that the early roll-out problems will be a footnote to that, and, you