illegal act because it had a primary political purpose which is the criminal violation of the campaign finance law. you can understand why some people are skeptical. sure. he s doing this under oath. you said you started working with him because he convinced you he really wanted to start telling the truth. he did though have his own friend and attorney david schwartz go out on television time and time again. i interviewed him multiple times repeating the lies that cohen was telling back at that time. i don t know if he lied to david schwartz. i mean, did did he lie to david schwartz? if he lied to schwartz, couldn t he be lying to you? of course. it took me a while to talk and get to know michael and his decision to change his life and as he said to me, hit the reset button and recognize you can t get a redo in life when you make mistakes and some of the things that he did for mr. trump he talked to me about and not being particularly proud of or things
convinced you he really wanted to start telling the truth. he did, though, have his own friend and attorney, david schwartz, go out on television time and time again, i interviewed him multiple times, repeating the lies that cohen was telling back at that time. i don t know if he lied to david schwartz. i mean, did did he lie to david schwartz? if he lied to schwartz, couldn t he be lying to you? of course. it took me a while to talk and get to know michael and his decision to change his life and as he said to me, hit the reset button and recognize you can t get a redo in life when you make mistakes and some of the things that he did for mr. trump he talked to me about and not being particularly proud of or things that he said that weren t true on camera. he is not particularly proud of that. isn t that a change of heart only after his offices are raided and he realizes he is facing possible serious jail time? sure.
very troublesome for the president here. the fact is if president trump were president right now, he could be indicted for these campaign finance violations, couldn t he? absolutely. when you look at the way the prosecutors have described it, when you look at the way michael cohen described it in court, these documents, it s criminal information, so it s essentially laying everything out. if this was an indictment and trump, donald trump was not the president, we could be looking at an indictment against the president. we could also, you know, if this was an indictment, look at this as the president being an unindicted co-conspirator. think of that, and certainly, the ramifications of that. it s really serious here. we ll see what happens from here. the other thing in these documents that the prosecutors have talked about was that michael cohen, and we don t know who these people are, was working with other people on the campaign as well. on some of this influence. and that certain
menstruation, as he did with megyn kelly. these things are worse. they can be ranked. and it s clear he has a hierarchy. men are on top and people of color are on the bottom. his comments set him apart from other tributes. these comments he made. president obama called franklin a glimpse of the divine. bill and hillary clinton wrote she was elegant, graceful and utterly uncompromising in her artistry. why couldn t he join other americans in praising the singer that way, in praising aretha franklin that way? because she performed at the white house for different administrations. no one who sent out a tribute to her said, well, she worked for me at the white house, she worked for me at the kennedy center. you know what i m saying? it brings out something else about trump, which is that i ve never seen him express any kind of artistic appreciation. and i don t mean other that he s supposed to be talking about degas and reading faulkner. i ve never seen him express any
color are on the bottom. his comments set him apart from other comments. president obama said a glimpse of the devine. why couldn t he praise the singer that way and praise her that way? she performed at the white house with different administrations. no one who sent out a tribute to her said she worked for me at the white house. she worked for me at the kennedy center. it brings out something else about trump. which is that i have never seen him express any appreciation and i don t mean he should talk about faulkner, but i never saw him express joy in pictures or any joy in music. i imagine he mentioned movies, but they would be ones like top gun. he seems to be pretty numb to the artistic.