mcdonald s? fast food workers protesting low wages around the country, america s number two retail giant costco pays workers, on average, over $20 an hour. so how do they do it? i m joined by doorian warren, a democratic strategist who worked on president obama s 04 campaign and also an associate prefer at columbia. good to see you. thank you. average pay at mcdonald s 8 bucks and walmart 13 and costco 20 plus. how do they do it? simple philosophy the founder and the last ceo and current ceo adhere to still. you treat your workers and your customers well. you re going to do very wlt and they ha well and they have lived by that philosophy and as a result much less turnover and they average turnover rate in the industry is 34% and costco is lower.