it s such a pleasure to be back in hardtalk with you, stephen. well, it s a pleasure to have you on the show. let s begin with a very basic fact you are one of your own israeli government s fiercest critics. you have been for a long time. you ve certainly been an arch critic of the israeli military strategy in gaza. given all of that, i just wonder how you feel sitting in tel aviv watching the international court ofjustice consider the case of genocide filed against israel. i was watching it with a lot of sadness, depression and also a sense of shame, i must tell you. you know, my parents came here as refugees, really the ashes of the biggest genocide in history. and here, 80, 90 years later, israel is accused for genocide. i mean, i wish more israelis have at least watched the scenes, at least watch the scenes of gaza. they don t see gaza. i wish they would have seen more of the children on the grounds of the hospitals, the starvation, the destruction. but none of this is
destruction, but none of this is presented here. so theyjust condemn anyone who dares to criticise israel. i don t know if weekly is a genocide. but it is a bloodbath, it is a terrible mass killing. do we care if it is legally a genocide or not. the israeli boron actor mind about pickling, their mind about labelling it as genocide. the? about pickling, their mind about labelling it as genocide. they mind, i cuess, labelling it as genocide. they mind, i guess. for labelling it as genocide. they mind, i guess, for reasons labelling it as genocide. they mind, i guess, for reasons which - labelling it as genocide. they mind, i guess, for reasons which are - labelling it as genocide. they mind, i guess, for reasons which are for. i guess, for reasons which are for anyone who knows some history are understandable. to quote your country s president, he calls the accusations atrocious. and preposterous. you yourself mentioned to me your own past, your own parents came from germa
welcome to hardtalk. thank you. it s such a pleasure to be back in hardtalk with you, stephen. well, it s a pleasure to have you on the show. let s begin with a very basic fact you are one of your own israeli government s fiercest critics. you have been for a long time. you ve certainly been an arch critic of the israeli military strategy in gaza. given all of that, i just wonder how you feel sitting in tel aviv watching the international court ofjustice consider the case of genocide filed against israel. i was watching it with a lot of sadness, depression and also a sense of shame, i must tell you. you know, my parents came here as refugees, really the ashes of the biggest genocide in history. and here, 80, 90 years later, israel is accused for genocide. i mean, i wish more israelis have at least watched the scenes, at least watch the scenes of gaza. they don t see gaza. i wish they would have seen more of the children on the grounds of the hospitals, the starvation, the d
gideon levy in tel aviv, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. it s such a pleasure to be back in hardtalk with you, stephen. well, it s a pleasure to have you on the show. let s begin with a very basic fact you are one of your own israeli government s fiercest critics. you have been for a long time. you ve certainly been an arch critic of the israeli military strategy in gaza. given all of that, i just wonder how you feel sitting in tel aviv watching the international court ofjustice consider the case of genocide filed against israel. i was watching it with a lot of sadness, depression and also a sense of shame, i must tell you. you know, my parents came here as refugees, really the ashes of the biggest genocide in history. and here, 80, 90 years later, israel is accused for genocide. i mean, i wish more israelis have at least watched the scenes, at least watch the scenes of gaza. they don t see gaza. i wish they would have seen more of the children on the grounds of the hospita
Who criticise it. Thats really shameful. Could it be that there is something about israel, something about the Jewish State which the international community feels moved to act upon right now . Im just very aware, as indeed are many israelis, that the United States Military intervention in Iraq Cost Hundreds Of Thousands of civilian lives, as far as we know. And we can point to many other military actions in the last 50 years which have cost tens, Hundreds Of Thousands of lives. And yet here we are with the international Court Ofjustice taking this historic proceeding against the Jewish State. Does that strike you in some ways as questionable . Stephen, israel was always judged on different criteria. We have to admit it, but it goes both ways. It goes for the good and for the bad. Israel feels and is part of the west