now tonight we ll go through all of this with some of the best experts available. here is the first thing to know. the stone indictment is not like any, not like any we ve seen thus far roger stone isn t like any of the other people charged and bob mueller knows it, so he has his reasons for pressing forward with what looks to be a very public rhetorical brawl. stone posted his $250,000 bond and then seized the moment right here you see it, channelling his old boss richard nixon waving his arms in a victory salute in front of the courthouse that s exactly the kind of spectacle that mueller would expect from a defendant who has literally tattooed richard nixon s face on his back today stone attacking the probe, declaring his loyalty to trump and fit in an apparent pardon pun for good measure if you re convicted, do you think the president will pardon you? pardon me do you think the president will pardon you? the only person i have
and if you can drag things out for a year and force the prosecutor to find all this evidence and then go to court and delay in court and stuff, you end up perhaps dragging it through the whole first term and perhaps you get pardoned stone s not a fool manafort s not a fool. they may be getting bad legal advice at times. i think they are acting so as to drag this out adds much as they can so they are hoping there isn t an impeachable moment here for president trump and that president trump makes it through his first term, gets re-elected or doesn t get re-elected and they get pardoned. i think pardon is central to the manafort and the stone right and that goes your analysis there, and you followed it closely, bill, goes to the way that manafort is accused of continuing to try to help donald trump, even after he claims under oath that he was going to cooperate and flip and sam, you look at the way that the special counsel did that dramatic morning raid, i m going to read from the
motivated investigation. mueller, though, alleges stone did not make a single false statement to congress, but, rather, made many false statements this includes about the documents that he said he didn t have, the possession thereof of the source for the big, big claims he made about wikileaks, as well as requests he made for information from julian assange and the way he talked to his self-proclaimed identified intermediary also, his communications with the trump campaign about wikileaks. stone maintains everything had gone well that day we had a very frank exchange. i answered all of the questions. i made the case that the accusation that i knew about john podesta s e-mail hack in advance was false. i think this was productive. i m joined now, as promised, by congresswoman jackie speier from the house intelligence committee. what does today s indictment say
no, i did not. now that you know that, does it make it look to you like your former mentor was trying to collude? was he was he trying to collude? i think he was i don t think he did as i said, think he conspired against himself. would he have? would he have gone look, i can t speak for him, but maybe he would have, but once again, i don t believe that he did. however, that does not but you believe tonight that this adds to the evidence of attempted collusion? i believe that once you look at the indictments, yes. we ve gone from russians, the russian military to campaign people now we have direct contact bill very close there. yeah, i mean, one point that jill made that it seems kind of crazy for stone to have lied to congress on something that was so obviously discoverable and would end up being proven that he lied. yes, but, what if the strategy was well, what if the strategy was better to delay than to admit everything early on
that was sam nunberg, former stone associate, this week today mueller charges stone with witness tampering. as for person one, i just spoke to him as well today i ll explain when we re back in just 30 seconds. as a fitness junkie, i customize everything - bike, wheels, saddle. that s why i switched to liberty mutual. they customized my insurance, so i only pay for what i need. i insured my car, and my bike. my calves are custom too, but i can t insure those. which is a crying shame. only pay for what you need. liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. today i talked again to jerome corsi he confirmed to me he is indeed person one in the roger stone indictment i asked him, though, about this evidence that mueller has against stone in the new