kinds of other things they want to talk about. but the way this played out seems to me as logical as you can do it. and particular when you put it in the broader framework where this president is on concern about foreign aid, his deep-rooted concern in the corruption issue in ukraine, the experience he had with high ranking ukrainian officials criticizing him and supporting secretary clinton in the 2016 election. put all that together and it sort of i think shows why it played out the way it did. with that i yield back. mr. welch. thank you, mr. chairman. under-secretary hill, i want to go back to your support and affirmation of ambassador yovanovitch. what i understand and by the way, thank you for that. our military leaves nobody no soldier on the battlefield.
crystal clear that the obama administration understood that this was a liability for hunter biden and not just the a political liability, this was a political nightmare but they decided to look the other way. on that point when it comes to trump, they can t control it. you say democrats look the other way when someone breaks the law. what law did hunter biden break? look, it s a corruption issue. he s abusing his relationship to his father to get special access and influence to the united states government. okay. so there may be questions but it s not clear that he broke any law, let s just be upfront about that. but your point, big picture here, certainly being these are hearings designed to bring up bad stuff about the president and yet we hear witnesses even before yovanovitch, the former ambassador. let s talk about george kent. as you know, he s a career diplomat. he didn t just serve under president obama, he in 2015, what did he do, he went to the
exactly. and that s the risk where people, voters, just start giving up. and i think that s also the aim in some ways because you ve got a president who has a corruption issue and a real one. so, what you do with a story like this is make it look like everybody s the same. yeah. and put a cloud over biden s head as well. it s a fascinating article. appreciate it so much. thanks for having me. we re going to explore the unanswered questions in the ukraine affair, talk to voters in a key swing state when we continue. he world, what do you see? we see patterns. relationships. when you use location technology, you can see where things happen, before they happen. with esri location technology,
talking about gordon sondland secretary of state pompeo. the u.s. ambassador to the so he comes to this with an european union, ambassador sondland said he talked to immense credibility. and i think the other thing garrett talked about closing the president zelensky and told them that although this was not a loop, you know, in a sense, this is a jigsaw puzzle. quid pro quo, if president every witness brings a piece to zelensky did not clear things up it. we get the defense department in public, we would be at a stalemate. piece. perhaps, get the omb piece. i understood a stalemate to mean we re going to have a complete picture to show this was exactly that ukraine would not receive what bill taylor said. the much-needed military assistance. your reporting sort of stands a quid pro quo and abuse of it s not the same thing. power. for our viewers who remember but it supports the same or have read about watergate, principle that the money that goes to ukraine was contingent the mili
end of the saga here, that the u.s. had effectively worked on this corruption issue for long enough, paints herself as somebody that s not partisan, said she never knew hunter biden, only met joe biden in his vice presidential capacity once or twice. alludes to having some meetings or connections with rudy giuliani, but doesn t get into them specifically, only says essentially the president s mind was poisoned against her and she was fired or recalled from that job merely because the president had lost confidence in her, not because she had done anything wrong in that position. they have been locked up in a secure room since 10:30 this morning. i suspect we ll hear more when lawmakers trickle out. we know all of this just from the prepared statement. i was going to say, that s just from the opening statement there. garrett, i want to get to richard engle in northern syria. quickly, what testimony is going to happen next week, what s still up in the air when it comes to cooperation ma