bit of time to reflect, and with that reflection, do you now acknowledge that covid 19 and the handling of the pandemic has been a disaster for the bolsonaro government? no, not at all. what happened has been the weaponisation of covid and everything that came with it by all the forces that are against president bolsonaro s regional project of basically ending the kleptocracy, the system that has run brazil for a long time. so, those people want to keep the system, want to keep stealing, want to keep their network of bribes and corruption, and they used covid all along in order to weaken president bolsonaro s government and, to a large extent, they managed. today, the corrupt system is much stronger than it was at
the beginning of the pandemic, and it has to do with the change in foreign policy that president bolsonaro undertook after i left under the pressure of that corrupt system. it s a strange way of looking at what has happened in brazil as a result of the pandemic, to accuse the opponents of mr bolsonaro of weaponising the pandemic. i mean, the pandemic, for brazilians, is a real fact. it has killed more than 600,000 people. millions and millions have been infected and, famously, yourformer boss, mr bolsonaro, dismissed it as nothing more than the sniffles. and to this very day, he refuses to get a vaccination. it suggests to many brazilians that, from start to finish, he has completely failed to prioritise protecting his own people. that s not true. there are many questions there. first, most of the.
in the next election. i put it to you one more time, as a result of the failures of your policymaking and your boss s, mr bolsonaro, your time, your time will soon be up. no. well, we re there for values. so, the time for sovereignty, the time forforeign policy that corresponds to the feelings of the brazilian people will not be up. yeah? unfortunately, and you don t want to see that, but if you go and study brazil, in reality, you ll see what i mean when i say that we are up against a very strong, corrupt system and foreign policy during my tenure was an instrument to fight against that system, and our alliance with the united states was one of the instruments for that. we had shared values with the trump administration. we still have shared values that the biden administration, and i dealt with them and i still, in my term, had very good conversations with tony blinken,
of basically ending the kleptocracy, the system that has run brazil for a long time. so, those people want to keep the system, want to keep stealing, want to keep their network of bribes and corruption, and they used covid all along in order to weaken president bolsonaro s government and, to a large extent, they managed. today, the corrupt system is much stronger than it was at the beginning of the pandemic, and it has to do with the change in foreign policy that president bolsonaro undertook after i left under the pressure of that corrupt system. it s a strange way of looking at what has happened in brazil as a result of the pandemic, to accuse the opponents of mr bolsonaro of weaponising the pandemic. i mean, the pandemic, for brazilians, is a real fact. it has killed more than 600,000 people. millions and millions have been infected
that you were part of that government for more than two years? not at all. the government did a good job in facing the covid. as i told you, the big problem that came with covid was the destruction of livelihoods, the destruction of the economies, which was not something that the government undertook on the country or undertook to face that. we provided vaccination for people. we, i mean, tried to go towards treatment that seemed to be available, but back then, for some reason, again, treatment for covid, cheap and available treatment for covid was demonised in brazil and elsewhere, which is a denial of science, manipulation of science. so, no, i m very proud of having taken part in the government. right. we tried to do. in two years, we tried to change a corrupt system in brazil, and that system raised against the government