and we ve talked about this before, in this long, slow process of confessing in public. much of the case against him comes out of his own mouth. ken dilanian, give us a timeframe. what s your best guess from reporting and also people you talked to yesterday at the courthouse and throughout the day, of the timeframe for this trial? when do we expect this trial to begin? joe, it was very clear from that arraignment that this judge, chutkan, wants to get this to trial, as does prosecutor jack smith, and the trump side strategy is going to be delay, delay. there were three dates for the next hearing, august 21st, august 22nd and august 28th. jack smith s team said we want the soonest date available, please, your honor. of course, donald trump s lawyer said, we d like august 28th. he won the day because the
explaining the indictment to mr. trump. he seemed, you know, animated, inquisitive. people in the courtroom said he was looser perhaps than the last one. when he was asked his name, donald j. trump, and he added john. when asked his age, he said, seven, seven, for 77. i ve covered trials in that courtroom and others that look exactly like it. for me, it was bracing. it was jarring to see former president sitting at the defense table in that courtroom. next hearing scheduled for august 28th, three weeks from now, when a trial date will be set. there will be a lot of haggling and negotiating back and forth about when that ll be. that s obviously critical to see whether it ll get in and completed before the election. joyce vance, i want to ask you about that admonition from the judge that ken mentioned. she told trump it is a crime to
substantial here, but about the motions that they might choose to file. i think we can anticipate based on some of the things we re hearing already, first amendment, prosecutorial misconduct, reliance of advice of counsel, but maybe there will be more and something i ll be looking for, what are the specific reasons that trump team wants delay in this trial date and that may be a bit more about their defense plans. there was so much written and it was fascinating, devlin n your paper and others, by ken, about what actually happened in court, looking at the players here. i thought one of the most interesting things was it was watched by district court judge who presided over judges who presided over trials of january 6th rioters, including and this is again from the times, judge amy berman jackson who called out mr. trump s irresponsible and knowingly false claims that the election was stolen when she imposed a harsh sentence on a rioter who had bludgeoned a capitol police officer
courthouse for more than two years. and, so i think that will probably feed into trump s arguments to try to move the trial, but i do think it speaks to how important this issue and this case is to not just the people of washington, d.c., but to the judges of washington, d.c. devlin, ken, your reporting has been fantastic and we thank you for it sharing it. barbara, you re going to be sticking with us. the fulton county d.a. fani willis readying a potential fourth indictment of donald trump. how she could be using the rico act more familiar to crime families than politicians to make that case. we have that coming up in 60 seconds. astepro allergy, steroid free allergy relief that starts working in 30 minutes, while other allergy sprays take hours. with astepro s unbeatably fast allergy relief you can astepro and go! this is american infrastructure, a prime target for cyberattacks.
avail himself of every possible defense. we have a new analysis about what some of the defenses are that include, of course, that donald trump was relying on the advice of his lawyers, that he legitimately believed that he won the election, and there s some issues with some of the statutes involved. all of these defenses have flaws, but they all could end up taking time, and it remains to be seen how quickly this case can get to trial. devlin, the court exchange yesterday is really instructive to the point we were just making with ken, because your team at the post reports the magistrate judge proposed three days. august 21st, for 2023, for clarity, august 22nd and august 28th. the prosecutor says the government is available for all three days but would like the first one. lauro, trump s lawyer, says august 28th. is that a foreshading of how they re going to play this?