crisis grows, world-renowned chef and humanitarian jose andres is once again heeding the call for help, providing food and comfort to those in the league. he nonprofit, world central kitchen, was on the ground within hours of putin s invasion, setting up mobile kitchens at border crossings to feed weary refugees. and now, inside ukraine, he is partnering with local restaurants and caterers to get food and supplies to cities under siege. they have served hundreds of thousands of meals so far, averaging as many as 150,000 a day. and chef jose andres joins me now. it s such a privilege to be able to talk with you. i just want to hear you talk. i ve got here on my notes that your world central kitchen has set up kitchens in poland, hungary, slovakia, moldova. what are people telling you?
the putin machine and have the western banks, we would not be here today. the thing is, i mean, we don t have to speculate about what putin is capable of. he did it to aleppo. levelled aleppo. he did it in chechnya, brutal. that s how he came to power. exactly. the idea that i do wonder if the ability of including western media to look away at those conflicts made him feel okay, i can get away with brutality. i m still surprised he thought in his mind that he could get away with doing this to ukraine. it seemed insane to think he would do it but he s done it. on the other hand, if you get away with everything else, if you can imprison opponents and murder opponents and rig elections and muzzle in the media and nobody cares, you can then go attacking other countries and nobody really cares beyond some lip service. you feel as if you can do anything and this is what he
it has been many, many years we ve been having conversations about russia and about the ways in which the united states has tried to deal with russia. multiple u.s. administrations going back to george w. bush to paralympic, you know, george bush looked into putin s eyes and said he saw his soul and trump tried best friends, that strategy. none of its worked. what do you make of the current administration s attempt to push putin back? it seems that friendship, nothing helps. nothing has changed him. we did talk about it for years and what is really engaging, people have warned about this. russians warned about this. boris who was an opposition leader and murdered on putin s order was so outspoken about it. we know from history how the appeasement of ditators ends, the same way. putin started initially with
soviet union. i saw that again a few days ago. we re seeing the leading companies leave and the banks seizing operations, people are no longer able to use their credit cards. people are losing their jobs. there will be economic calamities and there is nobody to blame except vladimir putin. and yes, there is actually growing understanding among many people in russia that this is going to be putin s last war. it s another one that he s engaged in but he s really over stepped this time for those western appeasers and enablers have been willing to turn a blind eye for so long, this is a step too far. yes, i do believe this will be the last war the putin regime conducts. the question is the price, not monetary but human lives and the time. it doesn t mean it s going to happen tomorrow but you know what? i think today we re seeing the end of the putin regime much more clearly. i ll take it. at this point, it s so
larger war that could engulf many more countries and lead to much greater devastation but until we can stop this, i think the entire world is looking upon ukraine with great sadness and so i just hope we can turn this around soon but there is no way putin will change course unless he has to by some over riding power. i think for people in ukraine, it already is world war iii. that s the problem. it s already world war iii for them. that s the problem. it s already world war iii for you. you don t understand the line. is it bomb drops on nursery house. that s your question? or tactical and we will see next week all of this so decide where is your line. amen. i cannot argue with a thing that