the way up to sitting for a sworn deposition. our understanding right now is that meadows is at least cooperating with the committee on the smaller end of that cooperation spectrum. we know he s turned over tons and tons of e-mails and other written communications. we don t know the content of those e-mails and communications. we also are hearing different things from meadows than what we re hearing from the committee itself about the actual verbal interview, question and answer session that meadows is going to do with the committee. be members of the select committee have said he s going to come in next week. they ve used the term deposition. that means it would be under oath. it means if meadows lied he would be liable for prosecution by the justice department. but meadows and his lawyer have signaled that they don t actually want to do a sworn deposition. so there s a gap there between the verbiage that they re using. but what we do know for sure is that in recent days meadows has