i said on the phone. then he says what he says. then i would assume that gordon was caught off guard by this and took some five hours to respond to this and gave, as you read, this lawyerly like response to what mr. taylor there said, saying there was no quid pro quo and then goes on to say that he suggests that they sort of take this conversation offline, stop texting about it, and if he has any concerns, he should speak to some folks connected with this issue. but i think what happens here, it would seem that perhaps maybe, and this is somebody gordon is going to have to tell the committee when he comes before them on tuesday, is whether or not he had conversations with anyone following mr. taylor s statement there. i think that s a big question that needs to be answered. the new york times was reporting that during this gap, this five-hour gap, that mr. sondland was talking to the president that, he called donald