arizona and spoke with loretta lynch and she had to recuse herself from anything having to do with the fbi investigation of hillary clinton and the server. they were very critical of that. now this is a conversation, they re not saying the conversation didn t take place between reince priebus and the deputy at the fbi. that s right, poppy. and that conversation that took place on that airport tarmac in phoenix, arizona, back during the summer, was regrettable, only because it raised an appearance issue. but i think a lot of the criticisms that ensued after that meeting took place, some of it was justified, because there was an appearance issue there. but at the very least you did not have any actual conversation about the ongoing case. here, by the white house s own admission, you have a conversation that was directly about a matter where the white house is itself under investigation. brian, i just want your take, the white house says this morning, it wasn t about the substance, it