greenhouse gases is ask politicians to denounce a democratic led effort to compel oil refineries to clean up emissions of greenhouse gases through a so-called cap and trade system. now, do you get what s happening here? they are in the oil business and they are saying, hey, we don t want oil refineries to get cleaned up. if you clean up oil refineries and have less pollution and less global warming, it costs the koch brothers a tremendous amount of money. they invest a little bit of money to buy these politicians and they specifically target commerce and energy economy and those are all my boys and what s the first thing they want to do? republicans of course want to limit the epa from controlling global warming. say, hey, back off the oil refineries. those guys paid our bills. that s how our politicians get bought and in this case by the koch brothers. with me now is kathleen hennessy