won t call it a smoking gun. someone will have to characterize it, but he does have information that would be of interest and it pertains to a crime most people would call the fbi about. don, i think the big effort problem right now for donald trump is, that he has lost control. he s lost control over manafort, he s lost control over cohen. these two individuals now are going to be looking to do whatever they can to cut their own criminal sentences, to protect their families, and there s not a lot that donald trump is going to be able to do about it, and i will just tell you, though, if there s a wire transfer receipt for $130,000 payment directly from the trump organization. that is nothing short of a bombshell. i want to say one thing, i respect lanny, but i disagree with him about what we just heard, i think it s complete nonsense and spin. michael cohen did not all of a sudden find love of country and did not all of a sudden become a patriot. did not all of a sudden conclude
privilege contradicted president trump s lie on air force one who said, mr. trump reimbursed michael cohen for the advance money paid to miss daniels to keep her quiet. that is rudy giuliani saying that donald trump knew, directed and paid michael cohen. there is no allegation of any wrongdoing against the president in the government charges against mr. cohen. this is giuliani speaking here. it is clear that as the prosecutor noted, mr. cohen s actions reflect a pattern of lies and dishonesty over a significant period of time. lanny? let me repeat. i am talking about a fact not in dispute. mr. trump s attorney submitted a letter published to the special counsel in which they said mr. trump directed mr. cohen to make this payment.
rick was saying is that the president calls this whole thing a witch hunt, what he s referring to is the mueller investigation trying to create a conspiracy case around the president s campaign, and he s repeatedly said there was no such thing, and now we re saying, oh, my gosh, two people around him have gotten into trouble. neither one of them has anything to do with what that was originally about. and what democrats talk about every time they can, about mueller, which is russian collusion, neither one of these two things has anything to do with that. go ahead, rick, what were you saying? this is the first couple steps in a long waltz. and this is never going to get better. and robert mueller is circling around closer and closer, the cohen thing was ancillary. to the southern district of new york because it was ancillary, the individual charges and case issues were ancillary to the overall investigation. mueller s charter was to explore russian interference and the role the trump
this is what you were referring to earlier as it comes to that wire alleged wire transfer if that is indeed what happened. watch this. does he have the proof? does he have the receipts? so, first of all, yes. the wire transfer from the trump corporation to the account that michael cohen set up that then went to stormy daniels is recognizable and provable. but let me repeat. the proof is president trump s own lawyers wrote the special counsel and used the word directed. there doesn t need to be proof when the lawyers have acknowledged that the client directed michael cohen to make an illegal payment, making the client as guilty, certainly, as the lawyer. and in my judgment, more guilty because he was trying to cover up and hide his own role in the situation with miss daniels by having mr. cohen do the deed
michael cohen pleading guilty to eight criminal counts today. cohen admitting then candidate donald trump directed him to make those payments. here to discuss the attorney representing storm my daniels, michael avenatti. you say you believe lanny davis dropped a bombshell in that interview. lanny davis just made an admission that has never been made before. it s the first i ve heard of this, he just stated on your show moments ago. where are the receipts, vis-a-vis donald trump s involvement. lanny davis just stated there was a wire transfer directly