in the defense department that reach $60 billion. we focus on this one. we hear all the problems and we don t have enough money. price of cutting the firefighters and police officers and raise taxes or not. billion in contract fraud. extraordinary. it is extraordinary. we hallowed out the acquisition force. we didn t give enough support to the government auditors. we paid a price for it. now we re reversing that by working very hard and getting contract procedures in place. that will provide much more strict guidance to the defense department, state department, aid and homeland security. greta: can we get any money back, those that defraud us? we tried. tried to claw back but they let the contractors write the contracts. who is they? defense department. greta: who in the world would write something like that? what kind of person writes a contract where someone defrauds you, that is tough.
in the defense department that reach $60 billion. we focus on this one. we hear all the problems and we don t have enough money. price of cutting the firefighters and police officers and raise taxes or not. billion in contract fraud. extraordinary. it is extraordinary. we hallowed out the acquisition force. we didn t give enough support to the government auditors. we paid a price for it. now we re reversing that by working very hard and getting contract procedures in place. that will provide much more strict guidance to the defense department, state department, aid and homeland security. greta: can we get any money back, those that defraud us? we tried. tried to claw back but they let the contractors write the contracts. who is they? defense department. greta: who in the world would write something like that? what kind of person writes a contract where someone defrauds you, that is tough.
because the military wants to be seen as different. if a military person gets taken hostage, they want the u.s. government to own up to the fact that he s in the military and they want for him to be brought home. the geneva convention applies. cia, it doesn t apply. so there s rules what the military can and can t do, what information they can and can t collect, and who they can uses as intelligence assets. we had need more details to find out exactly where the legality whether the rules were broken. but it has been referred to criminal investigations. there s a defense department criminal investigation going on into mike furlong. there s a number of charges we understand, part of it is contract fraud, which is him taking money for a specific purpose, we think it was about $22 million under a contract, and using it for something he was not authorized to use it for. this is the fascinating part
behavior. the military wants to be seen as different. if a military person is taken hostage, they want the government to own up to the fact that he is in the military and want to be brought home. cia doesn t apply. there rules governing what the military can and can t do. what information they can collect and who they can use as intelligence assets. as i said, we need more details about how this operation went down to find out exactly whether the legality and rules were broken. for criminal investigation. there is a defense criminal investigation going on into mike furlong. there is a number of changes. we understand part is contract fraud and him taking money for a specific purpose, about $22 million and useing it for something. what was that? this brings in this circle of people that you wouldn t expect