and, deputy manager leaving the campaign entirely. unclear who s taking either man s place. joining us right now is james carville. it s not outside the realm of possibility that he does have health issues. and also, these differences in campaigns happen. it would be early to call this significant. it may be, but there s probably a lot more to find out about it before i deem it significant. if it is health, that s one thing. if it s not, could this also just be the growing pains of a campaign? campaigns start off one way and often evolve into something else? yeah. this often does happen in campaigns. anderson, as james knows, campaigns are probably the most grueling thing you can do to yourself. it s a labor of love but intensity. it s ridiculous hours. low pay, grinding, difficult work and it ends, hopefully, in joy if you win. i m 50 and i m too old to do a campaign. it really say young person s business, especially on the presidential level. i don t know what the fac