mean to step on you. it a huge component. zoe said a couple little things, they re playing it cupkind of c because they will have a hearing next week but i expect in fact, they ve got some real combustible stuff that is going to break big when they do it and she s being kind of coy about it. so i think you can expect some fairly big bombshells. well, let s bring you in here, ron. you re not meant to be coy. i know you re not. you re a straight shooter. cipollone defended trump in the first impeachment hearing. he s no never trumper by any stretch of the imagination. the fact he s from trump s inner circle, the fact he wasn t like jump champing at the bit to come in and testify, he was not witness number one. he s just coming in. how important is it that this is the person, this is the guy that is coming to testify now? how important is this to the overall committee s ability to make the case to the american electret about what happened and led up to it? you know, i m not
going to incur legal bills and there is reputational damage and remember, mark meadows isn t just dealing with this stuff. he s dealing with the issue of voting when he voted from north carolina that many people questioned was not his actual residence. so i think in many respects, mark meadows does come out of this very damaged. i don t see a warrant around it. this is the case if too many people that work in that administration they just are trying to get their reputations and lives back in order after this very difficult and traumatic experience that they had to endure for significant amount of time. scott, one person who was part of the administration was the former cont er acting chieff nick mulvaney. listen. mark seems to have gone through a very dark period. he was apparently according to cassidy detached from the job. i picked up on things in